Heterosexual Pride mod taken down

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I don't remember reading anything, anywhere, that says you have the right never to be offended. The world simply does not work that way. If you don't like something, don't download it. You are not the "I am OFFENDED" police. Quite frankly, I really don't care if you are offended, or not. I don't care for the gay-pride, or related mods, but, you won't see me starting a thread about it, nor will you see me downloading them. I simply ignore them, and move on. Something you should seriously consider doing.

 

I get Americans don't understand irony, but this is sublime. You're saying don't be triggered by something you don't like, yet here you are, triggered by something you don't like. How utterly wonderful.

 

I feel a need to point out hypocrisy when I see it. "My pride is fine, YOUR pride is NOT."

 

no hypocrisy here my friend. live and let live is my motto. you should try it.

one love.

[HeyYou]

 

 

 

I don't remember reading anything, anywhere, that says you have the right never to be offended. The world simply does not work that way. If you don't like something, don't download it. You are not the "I am OFFENDED" police. Quite frankly, I really don't care if you are offended, or not. I don't care for the gay-pride, or related mods, but, you won't see me starting a thread about it, nor will you see me downloading them. I simply ignore them, and move on. Something you should seriously consider doing.

 

I get Americans don't understand irony, but this is sublime. You're saying don't be triggered by something you don't like, yet here you are, triggered by something you don't like. How utterly wonderful.

 

I feel a need to point out hypocrisy when I see it. "My pride is fine, YOUR pride is NOT."

 

no hypocrisy here my friend. live and let live is my motto. you should try it.

one love.

 

I beg to differ. "Gay Pride" is fine, "Straight Pride" is not? That is hypocrisy at it's finest. The whole "we can do this, but you cannot" thing is getting rather old.

 

And it is a violation of FEDERAL law to fire someone because they are gay. Does it happen anyway? You bet. In a fair few places though, employment is "At will." That means your employer can fire you for no reason at all, whenever he feels like it. He doesn't need to give a reason. Then we have the folks that get fired, and start screaming DISCRIMINATION. Doesn't matter what the REAL reason is they got fired. If they are of some 'protected' minority, that HAS to be the reason they were fired.

[dferstat]

 

I beg to differ. "Gay Pride" is fine, "Straight Pride" is not? That is hypocrisy at it's finest. The whole "we can do this, but you cannot" thing is getting rather old.

 

 

You are (I think deliberately) mis-representing the issue. As I, and others, have previously observed, gay pride is about an oppressed minority (and no amount of weasel words can make this not so) re-affirming their sense of self-worth.

 

Straight pride is most definitely not the same. Straight pride is, unmistakably, about re-affirming prejudice, and intimidating a minority. Why would anyone wear a t-shirt referencing killing homosexuals if they DIDN'T intend to intimidate?

 

C.mon, think about it. If you're on the same side as Nazis, and the KKK, you KNOW you've taken a wrong turn somewhere.

 

 

 

And it is a violation of FEDERAL law to fire someone because they are gay. Does it happen anyway? You bet. In a fair few places though, employment is "At will." That means your employer can fire you for no reason at all, whenever he feels like it. He doesn't need to give a reason. Then we have the folks that get fired, and start screaming DISCRIMINATION. Doesn't matter what the REAL reason is they got fired. If they are of some 'protected' minority, that HAS to be the reason they were fired.

 

 

Incorrect. The Equality Act has passed the House of Representatives in May 2019, and arrived at the Senate the same month. Until it passes the Senate, and survives a potential Presidential veto, it is NOT law. The White House announced in August 2019 that, while it opposed discrimination, it considers that the bill contains "poison pills", so a veto is quite possible. Until such time as it becomes law, there is NO Federal-level bar to discrimination on sexuality or gender.

 

See:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equality_Act_(United_States)

[StormWolf01]

No man. You're the one who isn't getting it. You're arguing laws as somebody who doesn't live in this country, against people who do.

You can post all the links that you want to, but it still doesn't change the fact that we know people have taken their employers to court for illegally firing them. And won cases against said employers.

You're the one that is arguing about how things stand, in countries that you don't live in. By legal standpoints, during the Obamination, LGBT literally gained more rights than those of any other minority group. The fact that they're even labeled as such, is a misrepresentation.

Do not talk to me about oppression in my own country. I don't make all kinds of remarks or post assumptions about yours.

 

You're arguing oppression against people who actually live under it, by the people that you're defending, while arguing that our government doesn't protect them.

 

And while I will withold any comments about the media that comes out of Australia, I CAN tell you that here in the US, only a FOOL or somebody completely IGNORANT of current events, or somebody who just wants to hide in the comfort of the lies, believes ANYTHING that comes out of the US media. Our media is as corrupt as our government.

 

If you wanna preach about stuff that you feel is going wrong in your country, then you go right on ahead and do so. You have every right, and even obligation to do so. But don't sit there and argue with those who live in another country, how you feel things are going wrong in their country. Because that gives US every right to straight up tell you, you don't know what you're talking about, and get your nose out of our business.

[dferstat]

No man. You're the one who isn't getting it. You're arguing laws as somebody who doesn't live in this country, against people who do.

You can post all the links that you want to, but it still doesn't change the fact that we know people have taken their employers to court for illegally firing them. And won cases against said employers.

You're the one that is arguing about how things stand, in countries that you don't live in.

 

Why the hell do I have to live in your country to know your laws? There's such a thing as an Internet, you know, designed for the dissemination of information across borders.

 

 

Fact 1: There is, currently, no US Federal Law barring employment discrimination on the basis of sexuality or gender.

 

Fact 2: In the absence of a Federal bar, some states (but not all) have enacted laws prohibiting such discrimination. California, for example, has passed some of the stronger laws.

 

Fact 3: In states where there are such anti-discrimination laws, yes, some employees have been able to sue their employers in case of breach of State law.

 

Fact 4: In those states which have NOT passed such laws, people ARE getting fired for not being heterosexual.

 

Again, all of this is established fact. Your ignorance, or denial, of it, does you no credit.

 

 

By legal standpoints, during the Obamination, LGBT literally gained more rights than those of any other minority group.

 

Really? Examples, please, or I call bovine stuff.

 

 

And while I will withold any comments about the media that comes out of Australia, I CAN tell you that here in the US, only a FOOL or somebody completely IGNORANT of current events, or somebody who just wants to hide in the comfort of the lies, believes ANYTHING that comes out of the US media. Our media is as corrupt as our government.

 

Oh dear. Oh dear, oh dear oh dear. Does your tinfoil hat fit under your MAGA cap? In the spirit of enquiry, I wonder if your scepticism extends to Fox News.

 

 

If you wanna preach about stuff that you feel is going wrong in your country, then you go right on ahead and do so. You have every right, and even obligation to do so. But don't sit there and argue with those who live in another country, how you feel things are going wrong in their country. Because that gives US every right to straight up tell you, you don't know what you're talking about, and get your nose out of our business.

 

Our respective governments tell us that Australia and the US are friends. I dunno about your friends, but I'd consider any friend of mine who had the courage to tell me that I was making a mistake to be a good friend. A friend who let me continue making mistakes wouldn't be much of a friend at all.

 

Alternatively, consider this: the US holds itself as a paragon, and as a world leader, in human rights. You say you're the good guys. Isn't it time you acted like it?

[HadToRegister]

Only in America can you get a certain percentage of the population here, crying about "WHAT ABOUT MY RIGHTS?" when another part of the population is MADE EQUAL TO THEM.

Conservatives cried out in unison about "Their Rights" when the LGBTQ community was finally given EQUAL Rights, under the Constitution, and Conservatives IMMEDIATELY started lobbying for EXTRA RIGHTS, in order to be put ABOVE the people who were just made Equal to them.

Religious Freedom laws are just that, they only apply to THEIR religion, and it gives them extra rights under the law to resume discriminating against the people who were finally made equal to them.

The problem with Conservatives is, is that they're convinced THEY are always the victims, no matter who they're victimizing.

[StormWolf01]

No man. You're the one who isn't getting it. You're arguing laws as somebody who doesn't live in this country, against people who do.

You can post all the links that you want to, but it still doesn't change the fact that we know people have taken their employers to court for illegally firing them. And won cases against said employers.

You're the one that is arguing about how things stand, in countries that you don't live in. By legal standpoints, during the Obamination, LGBT literally gained more rights than those of any other minority group. The fact that they're even labeled as such, is a misrepresentation.

Do not talk to me about oppression in my own country. I don't make all kinds of remarks or post assumptions about yours.

 

You're arguing oppression against people who actually live under it, by the people that you're defending, while arguing that our government doesn't protect them.

 

And while I will withold any comments about the media that comes out of Australia, I CAN tell you that here in the US, only a FOOL or somebody completely IGNORANT of current events, or somebody who just wants to hide in the comfort of the lies, believes ANYTHING that comes out of the US media. Our media is as corrupt as our government.

 

If you wanna preach about stuff that you feel is going wrong in your country, then you go right on ahead and do so. You have every right, and even obligation to do so. But don't sit there and argue with those who live in another country, how you feel things are going wrong in their country. Because that gives US every right to straight up tell you, you don't know what you're talking about, and get your nose out of our business.

Ahhhhahahahahaha!! The maga hat comment FINALLY comes out!

I was really wondering how long it would be before the true colors really started to show.

 

Lets see, you start off by coming into a thread that was relatively calm and peaceful....and announce that you'd reported the mod, because it was making gays, lesbians, trans, and all the rest of the alphabet feel insecure, or oppressed, so as to automatically make yourself a target in the thread.

 

S

 

Throw out a link, that when fact checked, shows you didn't read very far into it, and didn't see that it actually hurts your cause more than supports it.

 

J

 

Hop up on the soap box about how the world hates, discriminates, and persecutes a group that so far, you have made no inclination of being a part of. Who may or may not want you standing up for them.

Telling people that they don't know what they're talking about, because their facts don't match yours. Preaching at people about things that are going on in their country, that you don't know anything about, because you don't live there. And what you do throw out, people that do live there, know right away that you haven't gotten any actual experience of what you're talking about.

 

W

 

And then, when all riled up, because the parroted rhetoric gets worn out and fails, you fall right into the old standby of the maga hat. Which, is an ideal about bigotry, racism, pretty much each and every evil that can be thought up.

 

Your whole standpoint was that you are offended by a t-shirt. And then you make accusations about somebody wearing a hat.

I think ya just kicked your soapbox out from under yourself. Personally, I'd recommend bowing out, while you've still got at least a bit of ground left to stand on.

Especially since now you're worked up to the point of cussing and making accusations at people.

[dferstat]

 

No man. You're the one who isn't getting it. You're arguing laws as somebody who doesn't live in this country, against people who do.

You can post all the links that you want to, but it still doesn't change the fact that we know people have taken their employers to court for illegally firing them. And won cases against said employers.

You're the one that is arguing about how things stand, in countries that you don't live in. By legal standpoints, during the Obamination, LGBT literally gained more rights than those of any other minority group. The fact that they're even labeled as such, is a misrepresentation.

Do not talk to me about oppression in my own country. I don't make all kinds of remarks or post assumptions about yours.

 

You're arguing oppression against people who actually live under it, by the people that you're defending, while arguing that our government doesn't protect them.

 

And while I will withold any comments about the media that comes out of Australia, I CAN tell you that here in the US, only a FOOL or somebody completely IGNORANT of current events, or somebody who just wants to hide in the comfort of the lies, believes ANYTHING that comes out of the US media. Our media is as corrupt as our government.

 

If you wanna preach about stuff that you feel is going wrong in your country, then you go right on ahead and do so. You have every right, and even obligation to do so. But don't sit there and argue with those who live in another country, how you feel things are going wrong in their country. Because that gives US every right to straight up tell you, you don't know what you're talking about, and get your nose out of our business.

Ahhhhahahahahaha!! The maga hat comment FINALLY comes out!

I was really wondering how long it would be before the true colors really started to show.

 

Lets see, you start off by coming into a thread that was relatively calm and peaceful....and announce that you'd reported the mod, because it was making gays, lesbians, trans, and all the rest of the alphabet feel insecure, or oppressed, so as to automatically make yourself a target in the thread.

 

S

 

Throw out a link, that when fact checked, shows you didn't read very far into it, and didn't see that it actually hurts your cause more than supports it.

 

J

 

Hop up on the soap box about how the world hates, discriminates, and persecutes a group that so far, you have made no inclination of being a part of. Who may or may not want you standing up for them.

Telling people that they don't know what they're talking about, because their facts don't match yours. Preaching at people about things that are going on in their country, that you don't know anything about, because you don't live there. And what you do throw out, people that do live there, know right away that you haven't gotten any actual experience of what you're talking about.

 

W

 

And then, when all riled up, because the parroted rhetoric gets worn out and fails, you fall right into the old standby of the maga hat. Which, is an ideal about bigotry, racism, pretty much each and every evil that can be thought up.

 

Your whole standpoint was that you are offended by a t-shirt. And then you make accusations about somebody wearing a hat.

I think ya just kicked your soapbox out from under yourself. Personally, I'd recommend bowing out, while you've still got at least a bit of ground left to stand on.

Especially since now you're worked up to the point of cussing and making accusations at people.

 

 

Rather amusin' this. I wonder; how careless (or is that insecure) do you have to be to reply to your own post? :)

 

The MAGA seemed (and still seems) a reasonable conclusion.

 

Whenever I provide supporting evidence for my statements, you, almost always, 1) completely ignore it, 2) insist that it's worthless, and/or 3) completely mis-represent it. You, on the other hand, have completely failed to provide any support for your statements (I'm unable to describe them as arguments). You continue to ascribe to me motivations I do not hold, despite my protestations, and, again, with a lack of any evidence. You condemn your media organisations, again without any evidence. You fail to condemn people, and organisations, whose long-established policies and practices any right-thinking person SHOULD condemn.

 

You would be hard pressed to act more like Trump, or a Trumper, if you tried.

[StormWolf01]

Ok first and foremost, please excuse any of my typos. I'm laughing so hard that it's hard to type.

"Trumper" ? Please....oh please.... explain that one to me! Because to me, that sounds like a poker player, who just threw the trump card down on the table!

Which makes it all that much more hillarious!!

 

Huh, that's interestingly odd tho. As you can plainly see from most of my other posts, I haven't been using the quote function for the majority of my replies. Wierdness.

 

But anyway. Care to expand on the whole "trumper" and "maga" insinuations there, dferstat?

 

Have you noticed that aside from me providing linkage to the rules, that you're the only one who feels any kind of need to substantiate your moral high ground?

I really haven't seen anybody else here, have to go to the length of saying "THIS is why I'M right!"

Why? I can't speak for anybody else here, but I got no reason that I need to prove anything at all to you. Or anybody else in this thread. Therefor, it's not worth my time. It's also just stupid to try to argue facts with trolls.

Also, why would I waste the time or effort to do so, with somebody who's very opening statement in the thread declared them a troll?

[HeyYou]

Hhhmmm, the forums don't seem to want to post what I typed...... Not sure what that's all about. But, no real loss I suppose. Arguing these particular points with someone on a forum, that doesn't live here, has no clue about our society or culture, and is just another one of the 'progressive liberals' that needs a cause to forward, is waste of time, and effort. I oppose the whole 'gay rights' movement, as a demand by the alphabet crowd for MORE rights, than the MAJORITY. Another cause that is dragging society further down the drain. Wonderful.

 

In any event, I have had about as much of this type of stupidity as I can stomache, so, I'm out. Enjoy your delusions, and your uphill battle.