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"Picked for the Survey"??? Really? It wasn't an open poll then? How were the participants chosen? I think it would be rather interesting to run a poll here, in this forum, and see how the results shake out. However, I noticed that any user-posted poll got nuked in pretty short order. Wonder why that is.......

75% rated it 3-5 stars? Out of how many? 10? I'm sorry, but, I do believe your data is seriously flawed, given that responses HERE, are pretty much universally NEGATIVE. How do you explain that??

Well, theoretically, they use variables for a lot of those settings, seems like implement different themes would just be a matter of adjusting those variables...

I would expect the vast majority of users here are also viewing the site on their PC, yet we get a UI designed for phones anyway......

Oh, I am sure 'things will change', and you folks will make minor improvements, and likely add some features that folks want.... What I DO NOT expect to see, is a way to use the old layout, which was for more useful for folks on PC, showed more information, and, most importantly, MORE MODS, than the current design. Browsing mods at this point is a CHORE, not the the semi-enjoyable experience it used to be. Given the new 'power' of the underlying infrastructure, forcing everyone regardless of what platform they happen to using, to suffer from the same interface, really doesn't go over well. I understand the desire NOT to support two different interfaces, but, the one for PC is ALREADY developed..... is quite obviously FAR preferred by your user base, and would be less effort to transfer to the new system, than building something from scratch, would it not??

Need permission from the original author for that kind of thing. If there are specific mods you would like to see ported, reach out to the authors, ask them if they will do it, and if not, would they give permission for someone else to do it? (and under what conditions.)

But, if they ignore it long enough, maybe it'll go away??? I brought this point up 20 pages or so ago. I didn't get a response from staff, I suspect (and would be heavily) you won't either.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I expect... The lack of response is because they don't wanna give us a flat out "NO!"...... Instead, they just ignore the issue, and will do whatever they want anyway. This wouldn't be the first time for this behavior either.

That is very true, and I suspect your reasoning is spot on. However..... FORCING EVERYONE to use the 'mobile version' just isn't what I consider a "good idea"..... I am still advocating for giving users a CHOICE of which version they wanna use, the new 'mobilized' version, or the old one, that look FAR better on PC screens..... But, as has been the trend in this thread, the staff that DO respond, do NOT say a single word about this possibility. They are only dealing with relatively minor issues with the current version, totally ignoring everything else.

Beth doesn't even HAVE forums any more.... They have their discord, and that's it...... Of course, when they dumped the forums, that also dumped mod comments on their hosting site.... A decision I find highly questionable..... I don't do discord, and I don't care for beths mod hosting, as there is NO indication there of whether a mod does what it is supposed to do, or if there are any problems with it..... I think the devs at beth could screw up a wet dream.....

If you were 'listening to the feedback', you would by now realize that the new UI is pretty much universally despised by the USERS of the site. Staff talks a good game about 'how they are listening to us', but, terribly sorry, if you were actually listening, this conversation wouldn't have gone on for more than 30 pages..... I get that you only work there, and don't get to make the big decisions. I get that you are restrained by what 'the boss wants'..... I suppose, if Robin wants to screw up his site, that's his prerogative, but, please do NOT try and tell us the 'response is overwhelmingly positive'..... The evidence here on the forums tells an entirely different story. You could solve ALL of this hate and discontent by simply offering the OPTION of using the old UI, or the New one. Then this thread could go back to being just for 'tweaks' on the new UI....

There are already ads. I use an ad-blocker though, so, I don't seem 'em. (that, and I *think* "supporters" aren't supposed to be served ads as well..... nor are premium members.) Bear in mind, Nexus wasn't always the juggernaut it is today. There was LOTS of competition at one point. Most of those sites were larger, and better funded than Nexus at the time as well. Please take note whom is still standing, after all the larger companies have faded from the scene.....

And therein lies the problem. Simply do to the size of this place, the folks participating in this particular thread, have all of zero power to affect any change at all. At least, nothing beyond minor tweaks to what we are being force-fed. There might be a couple hundred (being generous) folks in here, but, nexus has over what? 30 MILLION members??? We aren't even a drop in the ocean.... Even if EVERYONE in this thread canceled their premium subscription, I doubt it would even be a blip on the balance sheet. So yeah. Robin can ignore everything we have to say, and be confident that any consequences, will be minor at best, but, most likely, not even noticeable.....

Well, he IS providing a rather nice platform for those mods..... Granted, some features leave a bit to be desired..... No one else has anything NEAR this scale for mod hosting. It is a LOT of work, and not exactly cheap, given the amount of storage, and bandwidth the site eats. The fact that Nexus is still here, after NUMEROUS other sites have come and gone, is a vote of confidence that the site will CONTINUE to be here, thus, it is a good place to showcase your work. I am admin on another mod hosting site, and we aren't anywhere near this size...... We have been around for quite some time, but, don't generate near the traffic this place does.... Mainly because, we couldn't afford the infrastructure for such an undertaking..... Kudos to Robin for managing to not only stay in business, but EXPAND his business to the scale that it is today. Now, if we could just get him to give users a CHOICE on which interface we like better.... That would be stellar.

What would be nice is if we could get a response from staff addressing some of the more salient points brought up in this thread. So far, the only responses I have seen, were about bugs, or pretty minor useability issues of the 'new design'. Nothing of any substance regarding user complaints here....

Not like we haven't seen that before here as well......

I note that staff ARE reading this thread...... Though I haven't seen any indication that there is any discussion about 'change of direction' here...... Not encouraging.....

If this thread isn't enough, I am not sure what would be....... Here we are on the forums of the site in question, and the response has been universally negative. In the 33 pages I have been watching this thread, (and participating...) I have YET to see ONE person say they like/prefer the new layout over the old..... Yet staff would have us believe the response has been 'overwhelmingly positive'????? Really???? I find that rather difficult to accept.... given the results I am seeing here......

Unfortunate, but, likely rather accurate...... Nexus pretty much is THE site for mods, and Robin knows that. Even if a new site sprang up today, Nexus are far too well established to even be remotely worried about 'competition'......

So, how many of the games nexus hosts mods for, can be played on a phone? So, if that number is pretty tiny, why is it we ALL have to suffer an interface designed for a platform that most of the games WON'T play on??? Is this all about serving up ads to folks on their phones? (I.E. Revenue.....) This reminds me a lot of Windows 8..... No one really liked it on their desktop, as it was primarily designed for tablets, and such. And once again, If I wanted a Tablet operating system, I would buy a friggin tablet...... However, I DON'T want one..... I run on a desktop, you know, a 'gaming machine', with a real monitor. Give me an interface that can actually USE it. I rather like the idea of making this a CHOICE, and allowing those that want to, to revert back to the 'old' interface. After all, aren't 'updates' supposed to imply 'improvement'??? From where I am sitting, the only folks that seem to think the new one is better, are nexus staff....... The users seem to be universally panning it. Granted, I am sure Robin doesn't wanna flush all that development money down the toilet..... and supporting two interfaces can be complex....... But, it is obvious to me, this is what 'the people' want..... you know, the folks that actually SUPPORT this site.

Yeah, I can't read that either.... The second line, I can actually make out, but, the white text? No clue what that says. And: Page 157. And ALL of the responses since last I checked, are all NEGATIVE. And these are actual site users..... I don't know about the folks on Reddit, or Discord, but, DO they actually USE this site? Or are they just a cheering section for whatever it is the team wants to do??? Once again, the folks posting HERE, are actually the folks that USE THE SITE..... They have a vested interest in 'updates' actually IMPROVING the site, not making it useless for a selection of folks, and less useful just darn near EVERYONE. You guys REALLY need to rethink this update. It's going over a lot like the cybertruck.

But it might not fit in the tile........ I would ask, Why Tiles in the first place?????

It's probably a conflict, rather than load order issue...... Try turning off the various 'framework' mods, (along with any mods that are dependent on them.) See if the game is any more stable. I *think* I remember reading someone else having potential issues with the unofficial patches as well....... but, I don't recall from where...... Theoretically, they shouldn't be a problem.... Theoretically......

Curious why the Poll thread by ortext was nuked..... Picky's reason was 'duplicate', however, I am not seeing another one...... Am I missing something here?? And..... here we are page 148, and still the results here are universally negative..... Curious how staff is coming up with the 'overwhelmingly positive' conclusion...... Personally, given the way reddit works, I am thinkin' basing any decisions on results there, is likely going to lead to the wrong conclusions...

8 pages later..... (after my initial post...) the feedback is still universally negative, and it isn't just the same people posting the same thing, its a lot of different folks, all singing the same tune.