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Get your head out of the sand. Racism goes both ways. The Black Lives Matter folks are the finest example. They scream and cry when a minority is killed by the white police officer, but they say nothing about the thousands killed every year by their own 'kind'. They ignore facts, and make up their own. You're full of it. Black Lives Matter organizes protests against institutionalized violence from police officers on minorities. They don't need to protest domestic violence because it is not institutionalized. You protest against institutions, not against individuals. Did you know that whites mostly kill whites? :ohmy: Who knew! Well it's because you are most likely to be murdered by someone you know, generally who are in your own ethnicity. So where are all the #Alllivesmatter people protesting white on white violence??? I am not talking about domestic violence. Not at all. I am talking about Black on Black violence. You know, blacks killing each other simply because they are wearing the wrong color, or are in the wrong neighborhood, or in revenge for some perceived wrong. BLM takes up the cause of ANY person of color killed by the police, regardless of circumstances. That makes claims that are not bore out by facts. They INCITE violence. A cop shoots a white man. Nothing is in the news about it. No one riots. No one demands "justice". A cop shoots a black man, no matter what the black man was doing at the time, there are protests, riots, and folks burning down and looting THEIR OWN neighborhoods. Where is the sense in that? Cops actually shoot more white folks (2 to 1 ratio....) than black. Blacks committed 52% of murders from 1980, to 2008, yet they represent only 13% of the population. Now, does it come as any surprise that they represent a significant percentage of those killed by cops? "Death by cop" accounts for about 1% of blacks killed by someone else. (regardless of circumstances) 97% of them are killed by other blacks. (not cops.) the remaining 2% fall into the "Other" category. If BLM states (as their name implies) Black Lives Matter, then why are they NOT talking to the folks that account for the VAST MAJORITY of deaths? Other Blacks. This is just another brand of racism perpetrated by non-whites. What about WHITE on WHITE violence? They kill each other for any reason, because they are wearing the wrong color, or are in the wrong neighborhood, or in revenge for some perceived wrong. Seriously, white people kill more white people than black people kill black people. Look it up :laugh: If no one riots for a white man being shot by cops then that is the white communities problem. Sucks that they aren't standing up for themselves. So since this is something you care SO much about, what are you doing to fix it? Why are you not taking to the streets to stop the MAN from killing... the MAN! What are you doing about all the whites killed by whites, the most dangerous people to other whites? :teehee: Oh wait, you are so worried about what African American people are doing and calling them racist even though they lack the institutions necessary to do so. White on white violence needs to stop!!! :wacko: Poor white people being oppressed. I don't see "White Lives Matter" whining about cops killing whites either. Whites represent just over half of murder victims. Blacks represent just over half of murderers. What does THAT tell you? It tells me that you need to go back to school and learn arithmetic. In 2013, 2,509 white people killed other white people. 458 white people killed non-whites. 2,245 black people killed other blacks. 57 black people killed those of other race. We can sit here and argue about proportions but clearly white people have a problem with killing people in general. Black on black crime is a problem, no one can deny but it is disproportionately represented while white on white crime is even worse. Ok, lets see here. Whites make up 64% of the population. Blacks make up about 13%. We get a total of approximately 3000 white murderers. We get approximately 2300 black murderers. Hmmmmm, It appears that blacks are disproportionately represented among murderers when looking at the population as a whole. Now, who is bad at math? You are still, I'm sorry but the numbers show a white person is more likely to be murdered by a white. :confused: So in a gun happy state like Michigan, you better watch your back. Maybe you can blame it on Obama like you do with healthcare... I mean, roughly 20 million more insured but you're still complaining it's a bad thing. By that logic we should be learning Iroquois, Sioux, Cheyenne, Cherokee and Navajo 'et al' since they were in charge for several hundred years prior to our arrival on the scene. The common sense part is that being Multi-Lingual is an advantage in general. I cannot fathom the reasoning that lead to the conclusion but the conclusion does make sense, it's simply good manners to speak the indigenous language in an area if possible. However there is a difference between voluntary courtesy and something being mandatory, there I part company with you. English has been the de facto language of the US since it's inception, we have required speakers of all other ethnic language groups to learn it as part of the assimilation process not the other way around. Oops, too late, white people already murdered most of the cultures you mentioned... :sad: Nice red herring but I only stated that someone shouldn't cry reverse racism to the Spanish language being a job requirement in many areas which were historically Spanish. :thumbsup: And a black person is FAR more likely to be murdered by another black. What's your point? By your own numbers, 41% of murderers are black, yet they are only 13% of the population. I think you need to revisit your math education. It appears to have been somewhat..... lacking.......

Get your head out of the sand. Racism goes both ways. The Black Lives Matter folks are the finest example. They scream and cry when a minority is killed by the white police officer, but they say nothing about the thousands killed every year by their own 'kind'. They ignore facts, and make up their own. You're full of it. Black Lives Matter organizes protests against institutionalized violence from police officers on minorities. They don't need to protest domestic violence because it is not institutionalized. You protest against institutions, not against individuals. Did you know that whites mostly kill whites? :ohmy: Who knew! Well it's because you are most likely to be murdered by someone you know, generally who are in your own ethnicity. So where are all the #Alllivesmatter people protesting white on white violence??? I am not talking about domestic violence. Not at all. I am talking about Black on Black violence. You know, blacks killing each other simply because they are wearing the wrong color, or are in the wrong neighborhood, or in revenge for some perceived wrong. BLM takes up the cause of ANY person of color killed by the police, regardless of circumstances. That makes claims that are not bore out by facts. They INCITE violence. A cop shoots a white man. Nothing is in the news about it. No one riots. No one demands "justice". A cop shoots a black man, no matter what the black man was doing at the time, there are protests, riots, and folks burning down and looting THEIR OWN neighborhoods. Where is the sense in that? Cops actually shoot more white folks (2 to 1 ratio....) than black. Blacks committed 52% of murders from 1980, to 2008, yet they represent only 13% of the population. Now, does it come as any surprise that they represent a significant percentage of those killed by cops? "Death by cop" accounts for about 1% of blacks killed by someone else. (regardless of circumstances) 97% of them are killed by other blacks. (not cops.) the remaining 2% fall into the "Other" category. If BLM states (as their name implies) Black Lives Matter, then why are they NOT talking to the folks that account for the VAST MAJORITY of deaths? Other Blacks. This is just another brand of racism perpetrated by non-whites. What about WHITE on WHITE violence? They kill each other for any reason, because they are wearing the wrong color, or are in the wrong neighborhood, or in revenge for some perceived wrong. Seriously, white people kill more white people than black people kill black people. Look it up :laugh: If no one riots for a white man being shot by cops then that is the white communities problem. Sucks that they aren't standing up for themselves. So since this is something you care SO much about, what are you doing to fix it? Why are you not taking to the streets to stop the MAN from killing... the MAN! What are you doing about all the whites killed by whites, the most dangerous people to other whites? :teehee: Oh wait, you are so worried about what African American people are doing and calling them racist even though they lack the institutions necessary to do so. White on white violence needs to stop!!! :wacko: Poor white people being oppressed. I don't see "White Lives Matter" whining about cops killing whites either. Whites represent just over half of murder victims. Blacks represent just over half of murderers. What does THAT tell you? It tells me that you need to go back to school and learn arithmetic. In 2013, 2,509 white people killed other white people. 458 white people killed non-whites. 2,245 black people killed other blacks. 57 black people killed those of other race. We can sit here and argue about proportions but clearly white people have a problem with killing people in general. Black on black crime is a problem, no one can deny but it is disproportionately represented while white on white crime is even worse. Ok, lets see here. Whites make up 64% of the population. Blacks make up about 13%. We get a total of approximately 3000 white murderers. We get approximately 2300 black murderers. Hmmmmm, It appears that blacks are disproportionately represented among murderers when looking at the population as a whole. Now, who is bad at math?

Get your head out of the sand. Racism goes both ways. The Black Lives Matter folks are the finest example. They scream and cry when a minority is killed by the white police officer, but they say nothing about the thousands killed every year by their own 'kind'. They ignore facts, and make up their own. You're full of it. Black Lives Matter organizes protests against institutionalized violence from police officers on minorities. They don't need to protest domestic violence because it is not institutionalized. You protest against institutions, not against individuals. Did you know that whites mostly kill whites? :ohmy: Who knew! Well it's because you are most likely to be murdered by someone you know, generally who are in your own ethnicity. So where are all the #Alllivesmatter people protesting white on white violence??? I am not talking about domestic violence. Not at all. I am talking about Black on Black violence. You know, blacks killing each other simply because they are wearing the wrong color, or are in the wrong neighborhood, or in revenge for some perceived wrong. BLM takes up the cause of ANY person of color killed by the police, regardless of circumstances. That makes claims that are not bore out by facts. They INCITE violence. A cop shoots a white man. Nothing is in the news about it. No one riots. No one demands "justice". A cop shoots a black man, no matter what the black man was doing at the time, there are protests, riots, and folks burning down and looting THEIR OWN neighborhoods. Where is the sense in that? Cops actually shoot more white folks (2 to 1 ratio....) than black. Blacks committed 52% of murders from 1980, to 2008, yet they represent only 13% of the population. Now, does it come as any surprise that they represent a significant percentage of those killed by cops? "Death by cop" accounts for about 1% of blacks killed by someone else. (regardless of circumstances) 97% of them are killed by other blacks. (not cops.) the remaining 2% fall into the "Other" category. If BLM states (as their name implies) Black Lives Matter, then why are they NOT talking to the folks that account for the VAST MAJORITY of deaths? Other Blacks. This is just another brand of racism perpetrated by non-whites. What about WHITE on WHITE violence? They kill each other for any reason, because they are wearing the wrong color, or are in the wrong neighborhood, or in revenge for some perceived wrong. Seriously, white people kill more white people than black people kill black people. Look it up :laugh: If no one riots for a white man being shot by cops then that is the white communities problem. Sucks that they aren't standing up for themselves. So since this is something you care SO much about, what are you doing to fix it? Why are you not taking to the streets to stop the MAN from killing... the MAN! What are you doing about all the whites killed by whites, the most dangerous people to other whites? :teehee: Oh wait, you are so worried about what African American people are doing and calling them racist even though they lack the institutions necessary to do so. White on white violence needs to stop!!! :wacko: Poor white people being oppressed. I don't see "White Lives Matter" whining about cops killing whites either. Whites represent just over half of murder victims. Blacks represent just over half of murderers. What does THAT tell you?

Get your head out of the sand. Racism goes both ways. The Black Lives Matter folks are the finest example. They scream and cry when a minority is killed by the white police officer, but they say nothing about the thousands killed every year by their own 'kind'. They ignore facts, and make up their own. You're full of it. Black Lives Matter organizes protests against institutionalized violence from police officers on minorities. They don't need to protest domestic violence because it is not institutionalized. You protest against institutions, not against individuals. Did you know that whites mostly kill whites? :ohmy: Who knew! Well it's because you are most likely to be murdered by someone you know, generally who are in your own ethnicity. So where are all the #Alllivesmatter people protesting white on white violence??? I am not talking about domestic violence. Not at all. I am talking about Black on Black violence. You know, blacks killing each other simply because they are wearing the wrong color, or are in the wrong neighborhood, or in revenge for some perceived wrong. BLM takes up the cause of ANY person of color killed by the police, regardless of circumstances. That makes claims that are not bore out by facts. They INCITE violence. A cop shoots a white man. Nothing is in the news about it. No one riots. No one demands "justice". A cop shoots a black man, no matter what the black man was doing at the time, there are protests, riots, and folks burning down and looting THEIR OWN neighborhoods. Where is the sense in that? Cops actually shoot more white folks (2 to 1 ratio....) than black. Blacks committed 52% of murders from 1980, to 2008, yet they represent only 13% of the population. Now, does it come as any surprise that they represent a significant percentage of those killed by cops? "Death by cop" accounts for about 1% of blacks killed by someone else. (regardless of circumstances) 97% of them are killed by other blacks. (not cops.) the remaining 2% fall into the "Other" category. If BLM states (as their name implies) Black Lives Matter, then why are they NOT talking to the folks that account for the VAST MAJORITY of deaths? Other Blacks. This is just another brand of racism perpetrated by non-whites.

You realize, of course, that your blinding self-righteousness only undermines your argument? No. Of course not. You wish to appear as the 'holier than thou' harbinger of 'racial equality'. Guess what. It's a lost cause. People change only because they want to. In more cases than you would care to admit, they DON'T want to. They hold their beliefs just as dearly as you hold yours. You aren't going to convince anyone of the 'error of their ways', they will look at you the same way people here do. Just another delusional fanatic that wants to preach his views, and sling veiled insults (and some not-so-veiled) at anyone that disagrees, or argues a different point. You are no different than the racists you condemn. Just a slightly different take on the same theme. You assign values, and motivations to people that you don't have the faintest idea of who they are, what they have done, or even what color they are. You are so sure of your superiority, that you fail to notice that you are making problems, where none exist. You are your own worst enemy, and the greatest threat to your own cause. But, of course, your arrogance, and narcissism, will ensure that you can't see that. Haven't you ever wondered why no one is interested in befriending you? Or do you just chalk that up to them being so jealous of you, that they don't want to be around you?

Get your head out of the sand. Racism goes both ways. The Black Lives Matter folks are the finest example. They scream and cry when a minority is killed by the white police officer, but they say nothing about the thousands killed every year by their own 'kind'. They ignore facts, and make up their own. Nobody said that racism didn't cut both ways. But didn't your mamma teach you anything. Two wrongs do not make a right. My momma taught me a lot of things that yours obviously neglected. I stated a fact. It isn't disputable, for any rational person. Racism exists, and it always will. You can cry and moan, and make any claims you care to, and it won't change a thing. There will still be racism. It isn't something you can legislate away. It isn't something you can educate away. It isn't something you can threaten away. it is human nature to not trust that which is different from themselves. Nothing you do or say is going to change that.

Get your head out of the sand. Racism goes both ways. The Black Lives Matter folks are the finest example. They scream and cry when a minority is killed by the white police officer, but they say nothing about the thousands killed every year by their own 'kind'. They ignore facts, and make up their own.

There is always going to be racism. Until the human race has interbred sufficiently that there simply aren't that many differences between us. So long as some folks look different, there are those that will discriminate against them. And this isn't just a problem for the US, it's everywhere, the only thing that changes is who is being discriminated against. It's real simple, so long as there are folks shouting DISCRIMINATION!!!!! There will be racism.

He used Red hair as an EXAMPLE. Nowhere did he say having red hair was bad. Are you just LOOKING for things to nitpick about? And I followed his example to a logical place. No. Only by your convoluted logic. If you can even call it that.

By definition, the subspecies of a species cannot interbreed and produce viable offspring. So please list the subspecies of human being which cannot interbreed and produce viable offspring. You cannot, because such subspecies of human beings do not exist. We fornicate like rabbits and we produce viable offspring, regardless of the pairings. What is delivered as insult and what is perceived as insult is as variable as there are individuals. However; show me the literature which has been published which defines red hair as an inferior trait in human beings and indicates that a red haired human being is no better than livestock. You cannot. Yet there are piles of literature which use skin tone, religion, locale of origin or social practices as means of defining another human being as inferior. Delivering a statement based on one of these characteristics to an individual possessing the characteristic can easily be meant and perceived as an insult. And what your are addressing with this analogy is not racism, but hate speech. Specifically words and phrases which have as their sole purpose the inflaming of passion and anger. And such hate speech and inflammatory words should be as socially proscribed as yelling fire in a theater when no fire exists. And just to demonstrate how powerful these inflammatory words are, consider how they would impact your psyche where you habitually addressed with them. From this point forward, you are "Honky". Finally Honky, please explain to me how addressing someone using terms which demean them as a member of some perceived group will help bring people together? (Edit. I was going to use Klansman instead of Honky, but who knows? You might take the former as a compliment.) He used Red hair as an EXAMPLE. Nowhere did he say having red hair was bad. Are you just LOOKING for things to nitpick about?

In this day and age, it really doesn't matter what you say. Someone will be offended by it...... Just seems to be the general trend. Still though, I don't recall reading anywhere that you (people in general) are granted any right to NOT be offended once in a while.

A discussion of racism + racist rhetoric + quoting debunked racial science + justifying racial stereotypes + denial of proven genetic science = racist. That is why. Your arguments fall flat. You don't have clue what you are talking about, and make generalizations based on information that you don't understand, that are NOT supported by the facts of the matter. Then refute my arguments with facts. Leave out the racist rhetoric and the racist stereotypes and the science that was debunked in the 1950's. Prove that we are not the same species. Prove that 'race' exists. Prove that racism is not based on superficial characteristics. We have. Where have you been? Obviously we are not reading the same thread. Your arguments have ALL been based on racial stereotypes, debunked science and opinions. You have presented no facts and no truths. LOLOLOL. If you say so. And yes, I guess we are NOT reading the same thread. Maybe you just skipped over those posts. The only argument I have seen you put forward, is ONE study, that states most humans have a lot of dna in common. That isn't news. It also doesn't prove your point. But, I really don't care to argue with anyone that simply refuses to believe anything that doesn't jive with their position. Bye now.

A discussion of racism + racist rhetoric + quoting debunked racial science + justifying racial stereotypes + denial of proven genetic science = racist. That is why. Your arguments fall flat. You don't have clue what you are talking about, and make generalizations based on information that you don't understand, that are NOT supported by the facts of the matter. Then refute my arguments with facts. Leave out the racist rhetoric and the racist stereotypes and the science that was debunked in the 1950's. Prove that we are not the same species. Prove that 'race' exists. Prove that racism is not based on superficial characteristics. We have. Where have you been?

A discussion of racism + racist rhetoric + quoting debunked racial science + justifying racial stereotypes + denial of proven genetic science = racist. That is why. Your arguments fall flat. You don't have clue what you are talking about, and make generalizations based on information that you don't understand, that are NOT supported by the facts of the matter.

Try telling that to the Chihuahua...chuckles. :laugh: However on topic. The Tibetans have retained some genes from their Denisovan ancestors which makes them high altitude adaptive. Inuits retained the cold adaptive genes of Neanderthals. I cannot see anything reprehensible about retaining superior climate adaptive genes from alternate hominid lineages. We are all homo sapiens but given man's basic nature I tend to think that they were not overly picky when they found a woman that would have them given the dearth of choices in prehistory. It is not a case of superior or inferior it's a matter of what is the most useful to the indigenous population. Evolution tends to sort out what works and what doesn't over the millennia. I would never argue with a Chihuahua....... You will never convince them they are NOT the superior species. Or sub species for that matter..... :D

Humans are all of the same species. There are, however, different subspecies, all with some distinct differences. A lot like and Great Dane, and a Chihuahua are both dogs, but, no one would ever argue they are both 'the same'.....

Thank You. :)

Owwie. And I bet you hit your limit for the month as well....... Data caps SUCK. Fortunately, the year after I moved out here to the sticks. (I think "nowhere" is about half a mile away.) the local telco installed DSL. The equipment pad is about three feet from my property line. :) I pay for 15mb/s... 25 is available, but, for what I use the internet for, I can't justify the additional cost.

Another facetious argument. And it is not my reasoning. I presented scientific evidence. Go debate against the science. Not facetious. It is a direct relationship based on your reasoning. Let me guess, you AREN'T a geneticist......

well, lets see here.... the only "difference" between male and female, is one chromosome, therefore by your reasoning Male=Female..... Right.

DNA is only part of the story though. Much as some folks like to deny it, there ARE differences between groups of people. Granted, a fair few of them are cultural, or heavily influenced by their culture, but, we are most certainly NOT all the same.

Could always put it in a chest in one of the Giant camps. :)

Which SCOTUS decisions are you referring to in your first paragraph? I've yet to read one that outlawed criticism of minorities or anyone else, whether it's private or public. As for racism, studies consistently indicate it's one of the most accurate indicators of low intelligence in humans. What differs among countries and among minorities within a country is cultural conditioning and very close to nothing else. The courts labeled it "hate speech". Saying anything 'bad' about someone that is not white, no matter if it is true or not, is consider 'hate speech'. I think that all this PC nonsense started back in the 60's, and has since morphed into something far more sinister, and developed a LOT more momentum in the late 80s', and has been humming along just fine since then. Please note all the organizations out there in the world SPECIFICALLY to aid minorities, be it religious, or racial. If a white, or christian group formed, with the express purpose of furthering the wants/needs/desires of white folks, they would be labeled as discriminatory, or even, terrorists..... (KKK, Skinheads.... granted, they ARE extremists, but, isn't BLM extremist as well?) Of course, you can call 'whitey' anything you like, true or not, blame them for all the worlds problems, and everyone else just nods and agrees with you...... There are laws in place that FORCE corporations to have a workforce that 'reflects the indigenous makeup of the area'...... so, they are forced to hire not on merit, or qualifications, but by race. This is a LEGAL form of discrimination, as it only discriminates against white folks, which, apparently, is just fine.....

It's already been proven that negotiations are a never-ending circle jerk with NK. Sure, we could 'negotiate' with them some more, and they might be good for a year or two, after they get some concessions, but then, they go right back to the same old behavior of belligerence, and grandstanding. So, why should we even bother? Shall we kick the can down the road another couple years? Give NK more time to develop their nuclear and missile programs? Do we wait for them to have deliverable nukes before the shooting starts? After all, war appears to be all but inevitable. It is not a question of "if", but, "when".

Because stating that some stereotypes are actually accurate, racial profiling, etc, isn't politically correct. And we all know that PC is what seems to be the most important consideration these days. Heaven forbid that our views offend anyone....