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no i get your point - you are unaffected and thus, life goes on.

 

its the same point you've made in other threads including two where you simply trolled me until i reported the posts to the mods. yet, here you are, once again, offering nothing except the glad tidings that you are unaffected because you dont use some mods that are either removed or won't be updated any more.

 

as long as you're happy who cares if all the mod authors are being f****d over for a buck.

Not responding to you again. But that is not what I said. Nor have I ever trolled you. But I can't control who likes/dislike me. :wink:

 

i don't know you to like/dislike you. but im very happy you won't respond to me again. silver lining in the cloud right there.

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I mean, lets say it straight without the BS...

 

As a user, people certainly have the right to feel the way they want about not being able to get the mods they love, now that they are either gone or no longer being updated, that they will be abandoned here. They have every right to feel something about that. They even have the right to an opinion on Nexus' decisions and actions.

 

What they do not have, is a right to to tell mod authors that they are wrong or mistaken or whining, entitled cry babies. Because here's the thing - until someone has actively contributed to this community with their own personal time, energy, knowledge and in some case, personal money, in order to produce a mod and give freely to the community, until they have done THAT and given more than just a download or an endorsement, they have no right to tell a mod author anything about who they think the mod author is or how they should be feeling or reacting to the situation at hand.

 

Doing so only shows just how entitled one feels in having a right to the mod author's time, energy, knowledge and in some cases, personal money. And if people cannot see this, then they are every bit as much of the problem as they purport the mod authors are (when really they are not).

 

THAT is just a fact. Another is, we, the affected mod authors, we nothing to anyone. And for folks to illustrate otherwise, through their veiled (or outright) entitlement, throughout all of this bru-ha-ha, well, is it any wonder that the schism is getting larger and larger???

 

Think it through - this is not rocket science.

 

Do like my supporters have been - thank your fav mod authors for their time and talent, for making your game more enjoyable and ask them to keep you updated on where they will be in the future, so that you will be able to find updates to their mods, or new ones that they have released.

 

Kindness, respect and gratitude go a lot further in reducing the schism than entitlement and toxicity. :smile:

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One thing that really bugs me about the citing of mod authors who have spoken out but not removed their content as a means to say that the exit door stampede isn't as big as we're making it out to be is that the people who do this seem under the impression that they've already decided to stay when, really, they could just be biding their time in the hopes that something to refute/prevent the many unfortunate implications that have been brought up comes to light, or at least that more information will be released that could contribute to the decision to stay or leave.

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One thing that really bugs me about the citing of mod authors who have spoken out but not removed their content as a means to say that the exit door stampede isn't as big as we're making it out to be is that the people who do this seem under the impression that they've already decided to stay when, really, they could just be biding their time in the hopes that something to refute/prevent the many unfortunate implications that have been brought up comes to light, or at least that more information will be released that could contribute to the decision to stay or leave.

 

I cant speak to anyone else's reasons, but I am one such person and I can speak to my own personal reasons/thoughts here.

 

1) I have nearly 20 unpaid voice actors who have worked in my mods, to the tune of nearly 10,000 lines of dialogue. How they are "paid" is having a reference to refer potential clients to. Their demo reels and their CVs reference this site and those mods specifically. Removing them would be akin to taking that work for free and crapping all over them as repayment. And this one, though some might not grasp the necessity or importance of it, this is the BIGGEST consideration for why I personally have not done a "nuke all" email.

 

2) The mods are there - I dont want to make any more ripples and toxicity than already exists. Since I cannot remove them, per #1, that does not mean I have to support or update them here and lose digital rights to those mods on future revisions. Instead of completely removing what exists and frustrating users all the more, I will simply leave them there. If "curators" choose to include them in their lists, there is nothing I can do about that, aside from posting on my mods to say, look, this is not the most current version, it is unsupported and might have bugs or inter-mod conflicts that will never be resolved unless you update to the current version which is now available offsite. At least the user is then able to make a choice and can go where directed to get at the latest build manually (Captcha will be used to block direct API access to those files, to prevent modpack curators from circumventing me moving off Nexus for such things as a result of the changes here).

 

There is already enough toxicity in this schism. For me, not removing them is simple. For others, I have no idea. It is far easier on the veins in your arse, to avoid hemorrhoids and unneeded stress, to just say, "they made that choice, I made this choice and if you want the best versions of these mods going fowards, here is where they will be". You know?

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just say, "they made that choice, I made this choice and if you want the best versions of these mods going fowards, here is where they will be". You know?

 

I think this is the best approach. Don't delete. Redirect. Post a text file as a "new version" informing users (who get a notification) of the new location.

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I think this is the best approach. Don't delete. Redirect. Post a text file as a "new version" informing users (who get a notification) of the new location.

 

This won't work in every case and situation

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I think this is the best approach. Don't delete. Redirect. Post a text file as a "new version" informing users (who get a notification) of the new location.

 

This won't work in every case and situation

 

I find it exceedingly hard to believe that they won't invent some new rule against "nonsensical" updates if enough authors start doing this.

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The ability to make a mod page with no files but information on where to get the mod files is already in place.

 

A quick check of the various game script extenders shows this. You just need a place to host the files.

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no i get your point - you are unaffected and thus, life goes on.

 

its the same point you've made in other threads including two where you simply trolled me until i reported the posts to the mods. yet, here you are, once again, offering nothing except the glad tidings that you are unaffected because you dont use some mods that are either removed or won't be updated any more.

 

as long as you're happy who cares if all the mod authors are being f****d over for a buck.

 

I'm affected and life goes on. I also don't feel f'd over, what ever that is supposed to mean.

 

And your statement is just plain wrong. @Zanderat worded in strong opposition to recent changes on The Nexus. It just seems like the last couple of days the old guard, that did not leave, came to term with how the future is going to be. Which is a good thing, if one considers personal mental health.

 

@CrEaToXx, thank you. And yes, the part about coming to terms with this is exactly right.

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The ability to make a mod page with no files but information on where to get the mod files is already in place.

 

A quick check of the various game script extenders shows this. You just need a place to host the files.

You might want to look at who created those pages before you make a blanket statement like that.

 

Reminder: staff doesn't necessarily face the same rules as users.

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