Sorry to see more great mods removed

[chucksteel]

Ethreon, THE SKY IS FALLING!

 

I can prove it!

 

Just outside my window the sky is filled with this fluffy white stuff falling to the ground!

 

That must mean FO4 modding is dead! :tongue:

[Ethreon]

The sky already melted here.. damn it.

[Ein]

Leito was load bearing though. So many mods were based on/derivative of EVB. I'm running into a lot of walls in trying to rebuild.

[Benmc20]

Heh funny. I was just looking at Snap 'n Build yesterday.

 

 

 

Now Snap'n Build is gone. I just went to make my backup of that and it wasn't there. Has anyone found out if there is some major upheaval going on right now within the modding community?

Not that I've heard of. At least no more than the usual drama. :D

 

Nothing more than that : https://trello.com/b/Q6VtzSYM/snap-n-build-v2-0 (and I have aloready all his files but won't uplload them without any written approval).

 

No idea what this mod is hidden (all of his mods it seems), but I don't see any closing account demand or any BAN saction, weird.

[Athanasa]

It's one thing to be patient with a labor of love for the community at large, but it's quite a different puppy if you pay for it and they bug out on you. As soon as there's a price tag attached, it turns into a product.

 

And all the legal stuff that comes with it. Would you be sue-able if your mod bugged? Or if it corrupted save files? The moment cash is involved people will start throwing around their legal weight, even if it's out of petty nastiness.

 

Or, I assume that's the case. I imagine there'd be loopholes SOMEWHERE to allow that sort of thing, and frankly that makes me incredibly uncomfortable. If I'm modding for a hobby I don't want nightmares of some legal heavyweight in the US trying to smash me into the ground because one of my mods broke their 500 hour save file.

[Deleted12668574User]

The moment a mod author releases his or her work, the users become the customer-base. The fact that it's all done for free is irrelevant (though soon, with the return of paid mods, this dynamic will become clearer).

 

Going to have to disagree with this. Sharing a mod with users implies no obligation whatsoever.

 

Paid mods are fine, but the idea needs to be introduced in the right way - and in such a way so as to not kill the modding scene entirely... Though at times I suspect that may actually be Beth's intention (either that or they are totally incompetent).

 

"Paid Mods" always have been and always will be a bad idea. If an author is creating mods to make money, they're doing it wrong. That's not to say that there's anything wrong with authors having a donation button/page, as long as it's optional. As both an author (other games) and user for decades, I will never put a mod behind a pay wall, nor will I support or recommend any author that does. If you want to make money, go make a shitty video on you tube and flood it with ads. :tongue:

Edited December 25, 2016 by Guest

[ad3d0]

 

If an author is creating mods to make money, they're doing it wrong.

So, if the company creates a game to make money - it´s ok. But if some one makes mod with assets, at least not worse than company made (often they are even better), he doesn´t deserve to get paid for it?

[Arneercool]

 

 

If an author is creating mods to make money, they're doing it wrong.

So, if the company creates a game to make money - it´s ok. But if some one makes mod with assets, at least not worse than company made (often they are even better), he doesn´t deserve to get paid for it?

 

In here,technically everybody is mooching on somebody's else's hard work, and that is ok, just don't pretend like you invented the deep dish because you took the time to figure out a program somebody else made for you. And a few modders really have let the "fame" get to their head. Modding should be a collaborative or at least a friendly place where people that love the game, can make the game even better. These days it is more a showcase of big egoes and shittalking about other peoples mods.

[Ethreon]

"technically everybody is mooching on somebody's else's hard work"

 

Just like the people making a game are using the inventions and hard work of those before them, right?

 

"just don't pretend like you invented the deep dish because you took the time to figure out a program somebody else made for you"

 

Just like the people that make games took the time to learn the programs someone else made for them, right?

 

"These days it is more a showcase of big egoes and shittalking about other peoples mods"

 

Pretty sure there are FAR MORE users shittalking mod maker creations, and often straight into their face.

 

 

I suggest you get used to paid mods, and drop your attitude issues. You're not really into a position to decide anything.

[ad3d0]

 

just don't pretend like you invented the deep dish because you took the time to figure out a program somebody else made for you.

 

That´s not the reason you can not get paid for your hard work. As Ethreon already mentioned most gamedevs use software not invented by them. Go to Steam store, at least 85% of games sold there are made in external specialized programs, still they are not free for all. People get paid not for using some unique tools, people are paid for their talents and time. That´s how it works everywhere.