Vortex 1.0 Release

[Pickysaurus]

In response to post #72142518.

Kaspar482 wrote: I don't know if this has changed in version 1.0, but in a previous version installed vortex on a separate partition (drive D:). I later reinstalled windows (drive C:) with D untouched. Skyrim still works but Vortex lost all settings, install data, basicallly the whole setup. Would be cool if Vortex stores all its settings in the same install folder to avoid this windows reinstall mess.

Vortex uses the AppData folder, which I believe always has to be on the OS partition (C:\) - reinstalling Windows would likely break a lot of programs if the AppData folder is removed/reset.

We do have a help article that is somewhat related here. It discusses the safest way to move a Vortex install between PCs, which is very similar to reinstalling the OS.

[Brynhildrs]

i'll wait for issue reports before i update

[Moksha8088]

In response to post #72142368.

valshares24 wrote: NMM forever.

Wonder if NMM will ever hit 1.0? It is close to .0.80.

[Elianora]

Using Vortex to install mods and I love it, but I still use NMM to sort my load orders because Vortex doesn't support drag and dropping to manually organise plugins :D

 

Maybe someone can make an extension to Vortex that allows manual load order sorting. :thinkemoji:

Edited July 30, 2019 by Elianora

[AugustaCalidia]

Congratulations and best wishes for the future. I've used Vortex since its alpha days and find it a truly powerful and elegant mod manager. Edited July 30, 2019 by Augusta Calidia

[ScarletStreak]

In response to post #72143393.

Elianora wrote: Using Vortex to install mods and I love it, but I still use NMM to sort my load orders because Vortex doesn't support drag and dropping to manually organise plugins :D

Maybe someone can make an extension to Vortex that allows manual load order sorting. :thinkemoji:

I second this.
We could only hope! It could definitely be an optional feature.

[Yooskacz]

Only thing i would like to know, if it will be possible to have mod packs support in MO2, because `intertwined with Vortex` does not sound good.

[CaptainKibosh]

In response to post #72143393. #72144508 is also a reply to the same post.

Elianora wrote: Using Vortex to install mods and I love it, but I still use NMM to sort my load orders because Vortex doesn't support drag and dropping to manually organise plugins :D

Maybe someone can make an extension to Vortex that allows manual load order sorting. :thinkemoji:

ScarletStreak wrote: I second this.
We could only hope! It could definitely be an optional feature.

I've wondered about the philosophy behind Vortex's system for ordering mods. As a mod dabbler (at least as far as I can personally gauge myself on the spectrum of mod users' deftness with various modding tools), I actually find the Vortex's system for ordering mods to be quite helpful, but I can also see how the lack of more manual control of the load order could be frustrating for more veteran modders (and even I sometimes wish "drag and drop" were an option).

In my case, I was never really able to get long term stable game play in Skyrim through NMM (dabbled, there's that word again, briefly with MO also with little success), but I WAS able to do so with Vortex. From my perspective and limited skill set when it comes to modding, Vortex was just more user friendly and required far less researching text and video tutorials on the Internet compared to NMM and MO. This is not to disparage the other mod organizers, but Vortex worked well for my specific needs.

I assume the method for organizing the mod order--using a kind of Boolean logic I guess? (not sure that's the right term, I'm not a mathematician or programmer)--where load order is determined by a relativistic approach, e.g., Mod A must load before Mod B but must load after Mod C--is a means of keeping one's playthrough stable by making sure one can't muck up the load order too badly by potentially arbitrary or even haphazard placement. I'm personally grateful for that structural rigor since it kept me from making mistakes in my load order, but I can see how it would be more frustrating for people with more expertise than me and who'd want to be able to manipulate their load order with a more direct, hands-on approach. Although I do wonder if manipulating load order manually would even be possible with this "Boolean logic" system in place? Again, I'm not a programmer, but if someone has an answer that this layperson can understand, I'd love to hear it!

Anyway, heaps o' thanks to the team behind developing Vortex, you guys helped me create my first (relatively) stable playthrough on Skyrim SE! I'm constantly amazed by the creativity and passion that the modding community is able to put forth on a daily basis. Huzzah for transitioning out of beta!

[wolfgrimdark]

In response to post #72143393. #72144508, #72144708, #72144743 are all replies on the same post.

Elianora wrote: Using Vortex to install mods and I love it, but I still use NMM to sort my load orders because Vortex doesn't support drag and dropping to manually organise plugins :D

Maybe someone can make an extension to Vortex that allows manual load order sorting. :thinkemoji:

ScarletStreak wrote: I second this.
We could only hope! It could definitely be an optional feature.

CaptainKibosh wrote: I've wondered about the philosophy behind Vortex's system for ordering mods. As a mod dabbler (at least as far as I can personally gauge myself on the spectrum of mod users' deftness with various modding tools), I actually find the Vortex's system for ordering mods to be quite helpful, but I can also see how the lack of more manual control of the load order could be frustrating for more veteran modders (and even I sometimes wish "drag and drop" were an option).

In my case, I was never really able to get long term stable game play in Skyrim through NMM (dabbled, there's that word again, briefly with MO also with little success), but I WAS able to do so with Vortex. From my perspective and limited skill set when it comes to modding, Vortex was just more user friendly and required far less researching text and video tutorials on the Internet compared to NMM and MO. This is not to disparage the other mod organizers, but Vortex worked well for my specific needs.

I assume the method for organizing the mod order--using a kind of Boolean logic I guess? (not sure that's the right term, I'm not a mathematician or programmer)--where load order is determined by a relativistic approach, e.g., Mod A must load before Mod B but must load after Mod C--is a means of keeping one's playthrough stable by making sure one can't muck up the load order too badly by potentially arbitrary or even haphazard placement. I'm personally grateful for that structural rigor since it kept me from making mistakes in my load order, but I can see how it would be more frustrating for people with more expertise than me and who'd want to be able to manipulate their load order with a more direct, hands-on approach. Although I do wonder if manipulating load order manually would even be possible with this "Boolean logic" system in place? Again, I'm not a programmer, but if someone has an answer that this layperson can understand, I'd love to hear it!

Anyway, heaps o' thanks to the team behind developing Vortex, you guys helped me create my first (relatively) stable playthrough on Skyrim SE! I'm constantly amazed by the creativity and passion that the modding community is able to put forth on a daily basis. Huzzah for transitioning out of beta!

wolfgrimdark wrote: I third this!

Been using Vortex a long time and the only thing in it I really dislike is the lack of control on load order. Sometimes mods just require a very manual process for load order. Yes you can change load order in Vortex but it isn't easy or user friendly compared to NMM. I miss the old drag and drop.

You can semi-drag and drop but only relative to another mod versus overall. Otherwise you have to make your own groups, give that group a load order priority, then put files in them. Like I have a "mods to always load last" one that comes at the very end and within that 7 mods that I then individually manner.

It does work and so Vortex does do this. But it isn't as friendly as NMM.

Still other than that I have no complaints with Vortex and am glad I moved to it.

I third this. I have gotten very good with using Vortex (well for me at least) and have solved all my issues except easy mod sorting on load order. Yes Vortex does let you customize this but it certainly isn't as nice as NMM drop and go. You can drag and drop but it is only relative to other specific mods versus overall order. So in V I made a custom group "mods to load last" and added 7 mods to it. Those 7 then load after all others. Then within that group I manually moved each of the 7 to load in certain order by some careful drag and drop and linking up. Again you can do it but not as nice as NMM.

Not really a complaint as I have everything running fine in Vortex for 3 games now ... and when I get my new PC in a few weeks I will finally move Skyrim over to it as well.

[OhPa]

Been using Vortex for some time now and have been happy with it overall. I imagine that the dev team now being able to work on "the fun stuff" will address features and capabilities that will make Vortex more powerful and intelligent. Congratulations on achieving 1.0!