Guest deleted34304850 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 This is a curious issue that I've never seen before. I am documenting it here, together with my solution. If the devs have any insight, I'd appreciate it. I noticed a mod I have in my FO4 game had an update. I went to the mod page, downloaded the update. This fires up Vortex to perform the download/install. The mod is installed. I get a warning telling me that one of the mods is redundant (the older version). I uninstall this version, together with its mod archive. A message appears saying Missing Masters. I click the message for more information and notice Workshop Framework is missing. I go to the plugins tab. Every plugin is in DISABLED status. This is very odd, as I have not done this. I set all DISABLED plugins to ENABLED. Once set to ENABLED, all plugins have a load order value of "?". I Click SORT NOW and this resorts all the enabled plugins, as far as I can tell, they now are back into their original sorting order. My question here is this; What can cause all my plugins to go into DISABLED status, if I have not played around with them in Vortex, nor done any work outside of Vortex on the game folders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickysaurus Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 If Vortex was closed when this happens it means another app modified your plugins.txt and when Vortex started back up it just loaded the file as it was left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deleted34304850 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Yeah, that's the thing - there is NOTHING I ran that would do this. For example, I didn't start FO4 and pull down mods from beth.net, or creation club, which could cause an unforseen update to plugins.txt, this is entirely as I wrote it. I've never seen this occur, not once, not ever, yet here it was. It was very mysterious. I went back through my computer's event log and it did go into Hibernate at a certain point yesterday. Could the system going into Hibernate possibly cause the files to be somehow corrupted? Looking at the rest of the logs, I don't see any further issues. It obviously came out of Hibernate, and remained active until it was shutdown. Other than that, I'm all out of ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deleted34304850 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Today, I've attempted to update a mod, and had a complete reoccurrence of the issue.My process is as follows; 1. download the mod.2. install the mod. i get a message saying missing masters I go to the plugins tab and every fallout 4 plugin is once again, completely disabled. I am doing nothing, running nothing, that can interfere here, but this is the second time in literally days I've had the same issue and it's absolutely baffled me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 I'd ask you the usual questions, but I know you've already tried them.So, I'll toss this one out, but you probably don't use it, or already checked....do you use MS Onedrive?I was trying to remove unused shortcuts from my desktop and they kept reappearing or refusing to delete, and it turned out Onedrive was restoring the shortcuts whenever I removed them.Is something restoring your older plugins.txt every time you change it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deleted34304850 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 hey mate, yeah, it's quite surreal.i dont use any kind of cloud service - not worth the hassle and about as secure as nexusmods (it's a joke)!when i reported the issue a few days ago, i "fixed" the issue, and then quit vortex and haven't fired it up since. Now, if I don't play fallout 4, and i don't invoke anything that can mess with plugins.txt then logically, nothing should change. the next time i fire up vortex, everything should be as i left it, but here we are, and for the life of me, i cannot figure out what is happening or why its happening.i've been through the logs - nothing.next thing im going to do is purposely set various directories as read only to see if, when i fire up vortex, it complains about not being able to do *something*. ive never seen anything like this before. it's really messing with my head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanderat Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 What do the Vortex logs say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deleted34304850 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 here's a link to a google doc with a chunk of the log https://docs.google.com/document/d/17iwtLh2FrxeAIlG9CF_fEq7NrJV_VhEQiSyf3DWXjVE/edit?usp=sharing i cannot see anything glaring and obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 So far, BOTH times it happened you were Updating a mod. Nothing in the Error Log or Warning Log? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deleted34304850 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 yes.the consistencies, as far as i can recall are as follows, some may be red herrings, some may not be; 1. updating a single mod2. both updates are since the arrival of the fast/slow download intro page (i choose slow as i am not premium)3. i do see traces in the logs of timeout issues mentioned4. vortex starts up, downloads the mod - i install and choose to replace the older version on both occasions directly after the mod has been installed, the missing master message appears - which indicates that all plugins are now disabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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