xrayy Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 in your definition i am an elderly. good to see that you look more into detail than other people. but sadly you are in minority. trump does not speak, he commonly lies and cheats - even publicly and celebrated by his fans and himself. i do not get how anyone with a working brain can follow or celebrate trump. but we had this problem already between 1933 and 1945 in germany. i don`t want to go into detail here but if you know about it you know exactly what i mean.it seems people all over the world including american refuse to learn from history if things happened too far in the past. things always begin harmless dealing with incapable leaders being or showing to be egoists and narcissists. but that does not mean that it ends harmless. i don't know why american people play down trumps lies and cheats. many even believe his lies after four years and confusing his tails with the truth. many rep politicians seem to be too afraid of him to publicly distance from his lies and cheats. it seems to be a weird dependency within the rep party looking like many of them adhere loyally to trump. this is where the things begin to become dangerous and it is somehow comparable as it happened in 1933 in germany. serious americans should fight for political agendas. reps and dems should fight for their agenda. but if they fail or refuse to condemn a leaders permanent cheats and lies and even begin to excuse this behavior (no matter if a rep or dem leader) i'm sure they will make the same mistake other nations already made in history. and they paid with the loss of their democracy! i hope trump will not pass this red line. but with his permanent cheating behavior he is not far away from that and hopefully his administration cares for that problem before they are all fired! it would be only one additional cleaning action of so many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 in your definition i am an elderly. good to see that you look more into detail than other people. but sadly you are in minority. trump does not speak, he commonly lies and cheats - even publicly and celebrated by his fans and himself. i do not get how anyone with a working brain can follow or celebrate trump. but we had this problem already between 1933 and 1945 in germany. i don`t want to go into detail here but if you know about it you know exactly what i mean.it seems people all over the world including american refuse to learn from history if things happened too far in the past. things always begin harmless dealing with incapable leaders being or showing to be egoists and narcissists. but that does not mean that it ends harmless. i don't know why american people play down trumps lies and cheats. many even believe his lies after four years and confusing his tails with the truth. many rep politicians seem to be too afraid of him to publicly distance from his lies and cheats. it seems to be a weird dependency within the rep party looking like many of them adhere loyally to trump. this is where the things begin to become dangerous and it is somehow comparable as it happened in 1933 in germany. serious americans should fight for political agendas. reps and dems should fight for their agenda. but if they fail or refuse to condemn a leaders permanent cheats and lies and even begin to excuse this behavior (no matter if a rep or dem leader) i'm sure they will make the same mistake other nations already made in history. and they paid with the loss of their democracy! i hope trump will not pass this red line. but with his permanent cheating behavior he is not far away from that and hopefully his administration cares for that problem before they are all fired! it would be only one additional cleaning action of so many.See, there you go again. Making blanket statements, that simply aren't accurate. Yes, Trump has difficulty operating within the confines of the truth, which makes him no different than any other politician. He is just more obvious about it. He HAS, however, proven to be a capable leader. The fact that you simply do not agree with some of his decisions, in no way makes them "Bad". It is impossible to please everyone, and quite frankly, I don't think ANY decision Trump made would meet with your approval. Would I have preferred a less controversial candidate? You bet. However, that choice wasn't left up to me, so, I made my choice given the options available. The Hitler comparisons are getting pretty old too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted54170User Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 The people below the age of 39 have become the examples of what some old timers over 65 used to wish for, They wished for peace without war so their children could get fat, grow old. I kept looking for work and each time i stopped in a new community long enough to listen to the new rules set by the leaders in charge I heard they made it even harder for my age group to find work. Because they gave themselves a retirement package which allowed them to keep the jobs people from my generation would have filled and I would have had a job in one of the team structured businesses. Only the elderly didn't retire at 55 or 65 anymore so the jobs which were commonly taken up by their young children when they reached the age of maturity were filled by the elderly longer. And sometimes longer after the mandatory retirement age of 75. The elderly are now the middle aged people. Between 68 and 90 years of age. It may seem strange to some, but not to me. Middle age was said would be 75 by the time my ten year old body got around to being an adult. Now, because Mom died at 93 years of age, Dad died in May of this year at 97 years of age, My mentor and leader of the modern bodybuilders supplements died at 96 years of age. 90, Ninety, all at 90 plus years of age. The 100+ year olds and older are maintaining a population at home with their families, or living in assisted living places, and also dementia assisted living places. The 100+ year olds numbers is larger numbers than ever around the U. S. of A.. The majority of 100+ year olds do not receive the greater medical attention Popular Science magazine theorized they would, and a diet plan to keep them fit, stamina mental clarity equal to their young all have not occurred. Looking young as they could have if science kept evolving as the Popular Science writers theorized didn't happen either. They haven't the money to keep up the payments for the medical scientific advances. They are still living to be 100+ years old. And being charming mostly. That maybe, theoretically, in a democracy their poor physical conditions only causes the community to collapse bit by bit because those who are healthy enough to become strong and can do the work required are few and far between. So it is again up to the youngsters that didn't get jobs. Instead they became fat and lazy while living off of the social welfare system the elders created while their generation was in charge so the young would have some sort of support. A note I recall: The Chinese love to remind us, that if the U. S. of A. challenges them to go to war they will just surrender and go on the U. S. of A.s Welfare like all the rest of us who are not able to work, only not able to work because there are not enough jobs to go around, but we could work if more of the elderly were not filling the job market official businesses seats. Also, looking at the market for socializing in the gastrointestinal clouds of today's youth, shows us, video gamers. Fatter then normal without a good exercise program, and the jobs they all have, making them sickly from gastrointestinal problems because of the trapped food gas building up from lack of getting out of the chair long enough to let food digest properly is, because of the large population of video gamers in the main group. Their own children are becoming the next generation for our overpopulated jobless society. Video game businesses took the Welfare monies from gamers and saved many young people from the Welfare systems ruinous system. The system that people like Bill Gates now ruins. Oh! Sure! Paying a monthly fee for the use of all the office tools we will never earn a living using is sensible??? Another way to move the money from the welfare crowd into the pockets of the bankers and businesses that are failing day by day because they no longer have any methods to give people the incentive to save money. 00.03 percent interest. For who? People on social security? People on welfare? People who receive compensation for job related injuries and spend it all supporting their families, whose children are now the video game society? Excuse me! I did not forget Trump along the way here. Nor do I have any reason to forget Biden. Neither of them can do anything for the system their generation and a couple more generations "created" that was to save us from all from the evils we own, our own two evils. The people of the past fed the wrong one, of the lesser of two evils, obviously. We were all much younger when they created the changes to the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. Their new bills in changing the ways of our constitution of the U. S. A.. I believe they had no clue what would happen once their new ways were installed. We babes in politics had no clue how the elders plans would affect us. What happened during my generation didn't work for us, because the new adjustments to the old ways didn't go into effect until after I reached 40 years of age. What happened? Look around you! This is what happened. WYSWYG: What you see is what you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrayy Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 in your definition i am an elderly.... ...The Hitler comparisons are getting pretty old too. yes, you are right but they are still true and valid! your ignorance does not change truth and it does not change history. trump seems to be the same kind of megalomaniac inside the same bubble bunker of defeat and disbelief. and you are one of his hidden fanboys. difficult to understand but it is obvious. you tell me that i am not precise with my arguments while you play down permant lies and cheats of a leader who lives in a bubble bunker ? you really dare to compare trump with presidents like obama or bush ? this seems to me a plain offence if you really try to tell that they are all the same. probably for you hitler too ?but this time his mix of spreading lies, false information and discrediting democratic institutions does not work as it worked so often before. even trustworthy reps do not support this soap opera. there is no more legal opportunity or backdoor with lies and cheats to steal biden the victory. and whoever believes the twaddle of this current white house propaganda machine (calling itself white house press) has my full condolence. the sad thing that this will leave a severe damage (even just founded on lies) on your democracy.apart from that to all people, including trump fanboys and trump relativizers and excusers, have a nice day and be thankful for your working and still intact democracy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyYou Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 in your definition i am an elderly.... ...The Hitler comparisons are getting pretty old too. yes, you are right but they are still true and valid! your ignorance does not change truth and it does not change history. trump seems to be the same kind of megalomaniac inside the same bubble bunker of defeat and disbelief. and you are one of his hidden fanboys. difficult to understand but it is obvious. you tell me that i am not precise with my arguments while you play down permant lies and cheats of a leader who lives in a bubble bunker ? you really dare to compare trump with presidents like obama or bush ? this seems to me a plain offence if you really try to tell that they are all the same. probably for you hitler too ?but this time his mix of spreading lies, false information and discrediting democratic institutions does not work as it worked so often before. even trustworthy reps do not support this soap opera. there is no more legal opportunity or backdoor with lies and cheats to steal biden the victory. and whoever believes the twaddle of this current white house propaganda machine (calling itself white house press) has my full condolence. the sad thing that this will leave a severe damage (even just founded on lies) on your democracy.apart from that to all people, including trump fanboys and trump relativizers and excusers, have a nice day and be thankful for your working and still intact democracy! Your opinion. That's it. And a very biased one at that. Propaganda is the lifeblood of politicians. In case you haven't been paying attention, Trump isn't doing anything that numerous presidents before him have done. Remember Bush 1, and "WMD's In Iraq"??? Bush flat out LIED to the country for YEARS, and he got something to to tune of 5000 american soldiers killed in a war that didn't need to happen. He got re-elected...... Trump hasn't gotten us into ANY wars. In fact, he is attempting to get us OUT of a couple of 'em, even though the military/industrial complex wants us to stay, as it makes them HUGE piles of money. Instead, we seem to be in line to get a 'progressive' in office. A man that plans to trash our economy with his 'green new deal', wants to take money from one group of people, and give it to another group, for something that happened more than 100 years ago. No one living today participated in those events, on either side of the issue. Yet Biden wants US to PAY for it. Biden wants to open our borders to countries that are hostile to us as well. How is that in any way a "Good Idea"????? But, do I hear you saying ANYTHING about those issues? Or the fact that he is 78 years old, and his mind is going? Nope. Not a peep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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xrayy Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 seems you do not know the difference or you do not have the ability to see the difference between childish narcissists and normal people. both make mistakes but only normal people may have the capability be a trustworthy leader. childish narcissists are clearly not qualified for that even if you still deny the obvious difference. your are somehow blind or ignorant to see and admit the difference. but i can assure you normal people with a minimum of empathy recognize that easily because this difference and trumps limitation is obvious.even if trump would offer the worlds "his most beautiful" agenda it would never convince me to vote for a candidate with such a limited personality. if reps are unable to present a capable candidate without severe personality issues even a mediocre 78 year old dem candidate wins. don't cry - that is the simple truth and it is the logical result!i'm pretty sure my point of view is less biased than yours. seems you are severely confused or blinded by trumps plain stupid and hysterical propaganda machine stuff. even serious reps do not believe that bulls**t and many other seem to change their minds and there will be more and more, because plain stupidity and ignorance of reality convinces nobody apart from brain washed trumpists :wink:and again: be happy that the majority in your country know what empathy means and that pathetic narcissists should not lead a nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJoseCuervo Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I think there needs to be some level of narcissism to believe you are capable of running the free world and in many cases it has helped people achieve great things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnarly1 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I think there needs to be some level of narcissism to believe you are capable of running the free world and in many cases it has helped people achieve great things.There's no objective way to evaluate this statement as we can't tell what they might've achieved if they weren't narcissists. And easily countered by examples of people who were able to achieve great things whilst still being humble. I could state that a person was able to achieve great things because they were a scat fetishist and be just as accurate as your opinion about narcissists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrayy Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 if you doubt the objectiivity how would it be just not to ignore reality ? reality is that all states certified their results and that a man, still president including his propaganda administration or at least parts of that, still not accepting reality while discrediting democracy without reason or serious evidence. so keep on ignoring trumps personality issues. call them what you want, nobody can stop you believing trump is cool.the truth is the issues are obvious and they can be dangerous. i'm just waiting for someone who kills again like this young man with a gun within a demonstration. and all this just because stupid people trust information just based on falsehoods of a narcissist and his hysteric propaganda administration ? this is (for a long time) no game anymore but trump acts just like it still is - feeling free of any responsibility - as the president!you still seem to like or celebrate trump for this dangerous game. people were already threatened or died with no reason but because of blind hate because of that!.funny and a reason to celebrate for you - in my opinion it is just sad. and even barr and others of trumps inner circle seem to realize that - very late but hopefully not too late!... and greetings to your qanon fetish friends, they will surely support you and your opinion. i prefer biden and harris as the only choice in that case without a doubt. I think there needs to be some level of narcissism to believe you are capable of running the free world and in many cases it has helped people achieve great things.that opinon shows the problem with fanboys like trumpists and it is the explanation why nacissists like hitler, stalin, trump and others were able to gain the power to rule a nation and we all know the results... . the fanboys always ignore clear signs of danger and celebrate their importance and if they realize the problem it is always too late because they are already part of the power abuse system, fired or in worst case dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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