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  1. No, Ulfric didn't use the Voice to win the duel. He could have done so without it. The use of the Voice was a message to the other Jarls. Also, Ulfric didn't expect Torygg to "resist" the Voice. Ulfric said that any Nord with dedication and ambition can master the Voice. For example, in a fight, you wouldn't complain if you lost because the enemy's fist was stronger, right? Then what about his vocal chords? Also, define "True Needs". The stone tablets at the Throat of the World said that dragons only Speak for True Needs. Only.

     

    In other words, when a dragon is incinerating or freezing a village, he is doing so for True Needs because dragons only Speak for True Needs, or are you saying that dragons have better justification for killing innocent civilians than Ulfric has for killing political enemies? Not to mention the fact that a dragon's Shout is usually lethal, while Ulfric only knows Unrelenting Force, which is usually nonlethal. Also, nationalism and rebellion are bad things? The Restless League would disagree:

     

    Did you even read the stone tablets or listen to the Graybeards? Dragons speak the Thu'um naturally; it is as natural to them as breathing. Mortals do not; only after long years of introspection can a mortal use the Thu'um proficiently. Jurgen Windcaller established the Way of The Voice after he attributed the nords' profanities with the Thu'um to their catastrophic defeat at the Battle of Red Mountain, and then won in a Thu'um fight with all the other Tongues with silence. Ulfric Stormcloak is not a Dragon or even a Dragonborn. He learned the Thu'um from the Graybeards, who undoubtedly (tried to) teach him the tenets of the Way of The Voice. The Graybeards have no expectation for a dragon to adhere to the Way of The Voice, including dragons bound to mortal coils. Ulfric does not fit in any such category.

     

    If Torygg was as weak as Ulfric claims, he would not truly need to kill Torygg outright using the Thu'um.

     

    Murders the king with the Thu'um and then immediately lays claim to the throne. Sounds like he is abusing the thu'um for his own glory instead of in worship of the gods. Even Tullius knows a profaner of the Thu'um when he sees one.

     

    And Rebellion at a time when there's a looming threat against all races that aren't golden-skintoned and really tall that was instigated by said looming threat is a bad thing, yes. The Empire may have to deal with playing nice with the Thalmor, but the Stormcloaks are the Thalmor's marionettes, and they don't even realize it.

  2. Lets say i killed Paarthurnax, will Arngier still give me locations to Word Walls and still holde a Piece Treaty to stop the War so i can kill Alduin.

     

    He will not. You killed the master of his order.

     

    Killing Paarthurnax is a subscription to cynicism.

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    the reason I joined the stormcloaks(yesterday) is that I hate the Thalmor, I really hate them. But you have a good point there with the note, I didn't realize it. Anyway if I can kill Thalmor I am happy ;P

    Well, the Empire hates the Thalmor as well. Right now, I'm playing an Imperial female character and she kills the Thalmor whenever she can. She waits for them to accuse her of heresy, then it is so on! lol. :smile:

    The Thalmor currently have a death warrant out for her too. Hmm... I wonder why? lol Well, I did help Saadia with her ruse against the Redguards. The Thalmor didn't like that. Hehe.

     

     

    Psst. Saadia lied to you. The Dominion was kicked out of Hammerfell. If anything, she'd be exonerated. So why is she running?

     

    And the Thalmor hit squad has no trigger other than passing a level threshold. A ball-drop by the devs if you ask me...

     

    As for the "honor duel"...

     

    If Ulfric had cut down Torygg with steel, the claim that it's an "honor duel" would remain dubious.

     

    If Ulfric resorted to the Thu'um in the event that Torygg got the upper hand, then again, there could be question.

     

    But he didn't. He blasted Torygg right out, and then ran him through. He violated the highest tenet of the Way of The Voice: "Speak Only In True Need". The claim that it was an honor duel became patently false the moment Ulfric started bellowing the Shout.

     

    And then that's not all, Ulfric has the gall to claim that Torygg being unable to resist the Thu'um is proof that Torygg didn't have the strength to rule. Who in Oblivion can resist a face-full of Unrelenting Force? No, it proves that Ulfric is willing to profane and abuse power to get what he wants. Ulfric follows the tradition of naked nords... in that his ambition is naked.

     

    Even Tullius knows a profaning of the Thu'um when he sees one, as his declaration of Ulfric's crimes during the Helgen scene shows.

  4. Miraak's "four word shout" does not exist. What he says is "Your soul is mine to devour", and fits no precedent Shout. I have written a meticulous dismantling of this assertion on a discussion tabs on one of the TVTropes Skyrim pages, here: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/remarks.php?trope=Characters.SkyrimDLC

     

    "Miraak uses a four-word Shout" is Skyrim's "Fawkes is Female", in that it is provably not true.

     

    In any case, this fundamentally cannot work because the SHOU forms specifically allow only three Words and three associated spells.

  5. I discovered that my attempt to avoid extra work concerning UVWing a dagger that is largely the same UVW as a sword has failed, and I will need to re-bake the blade for it. Since it's just the blade, and it's a wholly separate hull that's not welded to the hilt, I decided to re-bake just the blade and splice in the re-UVW'd part. Furthermore, since the shorter length cleared out some UVW real estate, I decided what the hey, have the two sides be separate instead of overlapping.

     

    I follow the steps I have before to render to texture. I have my hi-poly slightly larger than the low-poly. I set up the projection cage, I set up the normal map texture element to render, I assign the file name and type, I set it to render to the Bump map slot, I pick my resolution, click "output into normal bump", and hit Render.

     

    And it vomits up this. :sick:

     

    DaggerNormalsMapFUBAR.jpg

     

     

    What am I doing wrong? :psyduck: I've done this before, I generated the original normal maps. And yet this is what comes out!

  6. On the subject of Titus Mede being a craven surrender monkey with the White Gold Concordat, I give you this excerpt from "The Great War"; the first paragraph of the section "4E 175: The Battle of the Red Ring"...

     

     

     

    During the winter of 4E 174-175, the Thalmor seem to have believed that the war in Cyrodiil was all but over. They made several attempts to negotiate with Titus II. The Emperor encouraged them in their belief that he was preparing to surrender; meanwhile, he gathered his forces to retake the Imperial City.

     

    He's done this before. The question is... are the Thalmor wise to it?

     

    Mede's war is a war of gambits. The Thalmor won't be defeated by chopping them in the face with an axe. I hypothesize that the renouncement of Hammerfell was a gambit as well; to see whether or not the Dominion were truly still strong or were a paper tiger after the Great War. The Thalmor respond in kind with gambits of their own: Ulfric and his rabble-rousing. He may not be a manchurian agent, but he's definitely an unwitting pawn. Mede had that well-handled by the appointment of General Tullius, until Alduin threw a whole bunch of dwemer junk into that plan.

     

    I really don't see Ulfric Stormcloak being able to pull off the guileful gambits needed to defeat the Thalmor; In fact, he IS a gambit of the Thalmor. They wrote the comprehensive manual on all his angry buttons to push to get him to do what they want when they worked him over as a P.O.W. Just look at how he was ready to storm out when Elenwen was present at the truce negotiation.

     

    Only through divine intervention do the Stormcloaks ever have any chance of winning. Ulfric's head was minutes away from being separated from his neck once Alduin swooped in, and only through the Dragonborn potentially joining them do they have a chance at victory.

  7. Do you have any mesh replacers for Thalmor apparel? Do any mods alter the Thalmor and any of their inventory accoutrements?

     

    If you want to solve this, you'll need to do some diagnostics of your own. I recommend going through your meshes folder (specifically the armor or clothes) to see if there are any replacers, and also to go through all your modules with TES5Edit for anything Thalmor to see if stuff's not playing nice.

     

    Your load order is unique to you. No one else has direct access to it to make a conclusive diagnosis.

  8. I think the three tundra shrub meshes are a bit out of control. I compared the sizes of them in NIFSkope, and they are significantly larger and bushier. They also have a habit of clipping through things because they were significantly smaller when the level designers (both BGS devs and modders) placed them.

     

    Here's a comparison in Nifskope 2.0:

     

    TundraShrub05

     

    TundraShrub07

     

     

    And here's an in-game screeny comparison showing how conspicuously out-of-place they can become: Fort Greymoor Prison

  9. Were the Mountain Flower meshes handled at all? If not, could a more detailed version be made that isn't flat planes?

     

    Also, I think the mountain flower petal colors are a bit too drab. I just started a new game and the run from Helgen to Riverwood was conspicuously absent of blue mountain flowers... until I realized that they just blended in too well with the surrounding greenage.

  10. Ah, I found one with non-neanderthalic brows, and no hagbags on the dark elves: Ethereal Elven Overhaul. You might be able to simply extract the normal maps and use them independently... or you might be inclined to use the whole deal. Be advised that, though using an Object Space normal map system removes the model's tangent space as a potential cause for neck/wrist seams, the normal maps themselves can still cause them. I do not know which body model system that EEO is geared towards or if they can be switched around, I only gave the description a cursory glance.

  11. Out there somewhere is a mod with facial object space normal maps that remove the Neanderthal Brows from the elves, and the Hagbags from the Dark Elves in particular. I do not know where or what it is, but I know I downloaded it at some point and installed it. I presume that is what you are referring to.

     

    Other than that, RaceMenu will give you a far greater degree of control over player character face sculpting.

  12. Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch does some fixes to it, as did Unofficial Dragonborn Patch before it.

     

    The problem arises from striking him with a Legendary Sword of Smithabuse +NaN or some other massive damage attack and doing too much damage for the stage progression of the fight to work.

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    Another possible way of viewing it is that of offering an alternative to their need for domination and eventual demise.

     

     

    Paarthurnax = Carrot

    Dovahkiin = Stick (Technically, a warhammer is a stick...)

     

    Dovahkiin: "Yo, Paarthy! Notice anything different about me?"

    Paarthurnax: "You... have a new suit of dragonscale armor, don't you?"

    Dovahkiin: "Yup!"

    Paarthurnax: *sigh* "I was wondering why 'Chases-Many-Crunchies' hadn't shown up for my recent lectures..."

     

     

    I lol'd. :laugh:

  14. Point of order: The most powerful Dragonborn to ever live would have to be Talos. Because, yaknow, he apotheosed. Miraak fell to the Last Dragonborn, so that makes him not the most powerful (Technically Hermy did the deed, but at that point LDB had him on the ropes).

     

    Which aspect of Talos? Tiber Septim or Ysmir Wulfharth? Yes.

     

    Ultimately, the Civil War can be distilled to which of those two aspects you adhere to.

  15. Thanks, I now recall those female references. I was going on the fact I have not yet seen any female rank and file Legionnaires.

     

    And Ghorza was probably a Legion blacksmith? In any event, there "currently" does not appear to be any female rank and file troops.

     

    It's an omissive oversight. There are voice files for the generic FemaleNord voice set (Danica Pure Spring voice) for legionnaires... mostly. There are a few holes in specific quests, and mainly with garrisons

     

    I populate the Legion ranks with women in a mod I made, both regular soldiery and town guards both originally pro-Imperial and in re-unified town garrisons. The voice type fits... less well with the non-Nord legionnaires, alas... I also put in a few dark/wood elves into the LVLN lists (just male though).

     

     

     

     

    ...It just ain't easy out there for a High Elf, ya know.

     

    "Try living with an Azura-damned volcano going off under your ass..." -Any Dunmer.

     

    But on a serious note, I too chose to escape with Ralof as I took the whole "Off with his head" thing kinda personal... Eventually got over it though.

     

     

    Just love how those 'Croaks tried to disavow and distance you from them so you didn't lose your head for being one of them, huh? Oh wait, they didn't.

     

    Lokir: "No! Wait! We're not rebels!"

    Ralof: "Face your death with some courage, horse-thief."

    Lokir: "You've got to tell them! We weren't with you! This is a mistake!"

     

    Neither side is blameless in the PlayerChar almost losing their head.

  16. If you hate tyrants, why not?

    Paarthurnax wants to force his way of the voice on the other dragons, so they hate them.

     

    He forces nothing. He presents the option. "Willing or no, they shall hear it!" The very notion of "forcing" is anathema to the Way of The Voice. Even Jurgen Windcaller, when he returned after his introspection and founded the Way, didn't force anything. He showed the other Tongues how their way was in error. Mainly by no-selling their own attempts to force him away until they were hoarse from the Shouting.

     

    Seeing how Paarthurnax is left standing and Alduin is not, other dragons will begin wondering what's so special about the Way of The Voice.

     

    It is only viewed as "tyranny" by those who don't like all those pesky rules, like Odahviing.

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