Trying to understand

[axonis]

 

Why are you uploading files if you just want to delete them?

 

Example: when I update a file, the old version gets deleted if I wish to. Why ? Because I don't want to support old stuff.

 

See for example, how a mature mod hosting service is handling file deletions:

 

 

See ? They provide a valid reason for not deleting files but they leave the final decision to me. And I do decide to delete that file because I want to support a new, fresh, better mod and encourage the mod author to keep working on it to know his work is appreciated.

 

Life is really so simple when dealing with mature people who can respect others.

[TexMex477]

 

 

Why are you uploading files if you just want to delete them?

 

Example: when I update a file, the old version gets deleted if I wish to. Why ? Because I don't want to support old stuff.

 

See for example, how a mature mod hosting service is handling file deletions:

 

 

See ? They provide a valid reason for not deleting files but they leave the final decision to me. And I do decide to delete that file because I want to support a new, fresh, better mod and encourage the mod author to keep working on it to know his work is appreciated.

 

Life is really so simple when dealing with mature people who can respect others.

 

So when you delete the mod off the website

 

Does it get deleted off the person that downloaded its computer too?

[maxmanatarms]

@TexMex

Everyone has been stating why. The Mod Authors shouldn't be losing their right to control there created works.

Nexus has stated any non control will ruin the "new system" nvm if you have to control something that isnt yours to make something else work it should be the first red flag you see before wasting 3 years making a "collection/Mod pack" system then springing it on your user base without even saying what is happening till the last second.

New System has 0 testing. They are only now doing small tests meaning it MAY work. It MAY NOT Work. But they are only going to "present and provide it" after they have salted the earth.

Are you really asking such a stupid question? " Why do you want to upload files to just delete them?"

Version 1 issues with X files or procresses. Fix them and put Version 2 out. Do you still want to keep broken version 1? NO. you want to remove it so that only the new working one is out there. That is why you would upload a file then want to delete it. To fix the issues. Jesus christ you are a useful idoit. NO deleating the file doesnt remove it from others computers. Only the websites.

Edited July 13, 2021 by maxmanatarms

[TexMex477]

@TexMex

 

Everyone has been stating why. The Mod Authors shouldn't be losing their right to control there created works.

Nexus has stated any non control will ruin the "new system" nvm if you have to control something that isnt yours to make something else work it should be the first red flag you see before wasting 3 years making a "collection/Mod pack" system then springing it on your user base without even saying what is happening till the last second.

New System has 0 testing. They are only now doing small tests meaning it MAY work. It MAY NOT Work. But they are only going to "present and provide it" after they have salted the earth.

 

Are you really asking such a stupid question? " Why do you want to upload files to just delete them?"

 

Version 1 issues with X files or procresses. Fix them and put Version 2 out. Do you still want to keep broken version 1? NO. you want to remove it so that only the new working one is out there. That is why you would upload a file then want to delete it. To fix the issues. Jesus christ you are a useful idoit. Did you also learn about babys from storks and cabbage patches?

 

You still have not answered the very basic question.

Why are you uploading the file to Nexus if you just plan to delete it?

 

I have a idea maybe a hunch the real reason but lets hear your opinion.

Edited July 13, 2021 by TexMex477

[maxmanatarms]

 

@TexMex

 

Everyone has been stating why. The Mod Authors shouldn't be losing their right to control there created works.

Nexus has stated any non control will ruin the "new system" nvm if you have to control something that isnt yours to make something else work it should be the first red flag you see before wasting 3 years making a "collection/Mod pack" system then springing it on your user base without even saying what is happening till the last second.

New System has 0 testing. They are only now doing small tests meaning it MAY work. It MAY NOT Work. But they are only going to "present and provide it" after they have salted the earth.

 

Are you really asking such a stupid question? " Why do you want to upload files to just delete them?"

 

Version 1 issues with X files or procresses. Fix them and put Version 2 out. Do you still want to keep broken version 1? NO. you want to remove it so that only the new working one is out there. That is why you would upload a file then want to delete it. To fix the issues. Jesus christ you are a useful idoit. Did you also learn about babys from storks and cabbage patches?

 

You still have not answered the very basic question.

Why are you uploading the file to Nexus if you just plan to delete it?

 

I have a idea maybe a hunch the real reason but lets hear your opinion.

 

TO FIX THEM. jesus dude at this point im not sure if your starwman they paid to troll the forums. You do not keep bad files when you have fixed them. You remove them so folks dont download the wrong thing and mess things up. It is that simple. That is the answer. FFS

[xrayy]

yes, one nice and simple solution plus opt out option - not any mod author would have complained. seems nexusmods was unable or not willing to make it compatible with their "advanced" new system in the last two years - but why are they currently able to nuke/fully delete a whole mod author collection ?

 

my help syndrom in these collections theads is completely worthless - i know it and it feels like posting for nothing but trolls. :smile: have a nice evening

[WileCoyote68]

 

 

 

ignorance seems to be a strong power in you. maybe you read this and understand more. probably not :wink:

why do you think i did not understand?

a thread that doesn't exist?

 

 

seems not to exist for you, sorry. here for you but i will not copy the whole thread (you may ask):

 

showler, on 11 Jul 2021 - 6:55 PM, said:

You didn't even bother reading the part about different Collections for different classes of computer, did you?

 

And your "dumb sheep" obsession is absurd. Mod Authors delete mods for various reasons. Deleting mods is bad for this new system. Not allowing the deletion of mods is not treating people like "dumb sheep", it's treating them like the people they always have been and expecting them to act the way they always have. A bunch of people's immediate reaction to this was to start planning how they can sabotage Nexus or falsely accuse them of DMCA violations.

 

Clearly we disagree. That's life.

if you think so i'm sure you did not read anything of what i wrote so far. i work in the it and what you mention is just a nice try to reduce the complexity of porblems for one case. it will work for some people but it does not solve even 5% of the individual setup problems related to a mod list and even not all the other problems i mentioned at all. so - nice try but i would like to see real arguments, your solution, instead of hot air. and i'm not talking about pokemon or minecraft but open world bethesda games with their known weaknesses and limitations, generating a lot of instabilities and performance problems even without any mod list.

 

and to the dumb sheeps issue: again no valid arguments from your side, not even an excuse. you do not have to care for the rights and the ownership of mod creators and what nexusmods do. it may be legal (we will see) but it is nothing else than expropriation of the mod owner. and a change like this after a decade feels like a "resounding slap in the face", while ignoring or not even planning a more community friendly solution including and respecting all.

i think it is compelety hopeless to make you somehow undertsand this situation. if i'm an owner of s/th i do not have to ask anyone what i do and why do it. maybe you understand if some authority tells you suddenly that can you can use your car and pay for it but you can not sell it from now on. maybe you understand this simple example and the annoying result. and it is completely irrelevant if anyone else uses or needs the car if you are the owner. the goals and the honey words are irrelevant - in fact it it is nothing else than expropriation with a 5 week escape period (thank you nexus - this is such a help!) - after more than 10 years of trustful realtionship and coexistence.

 

and yes - in the meantime i'm aware of some reddit threads spreading falsehoods about concerned mod authors. i'm sure some of these toxic people are also doing their destructive work here.

 

If I understand you correct you are saying "it is your mod and you can delete it when ever you want"

 

So you would be happy.... and OKAY with the fact that one day...

 

That tomorrow the maintainer of blender removes the blender website and disallows you to use it to finish making a model for project?

 

Remember its the maintainer property and he can delete it when ever he wishes even if it affects your game company and costs you money.

 

 

Open Source Software to use as an example is ridiculous in most cases. Most of them are projects in which many authors work together

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Edited July 13, 2021 by 1ae0bfb8

[TexMex477]

 

@TexMex

 

Everyone has been stating why. The Mod Authors shouldn't be losing their right to control there created works.

Nexus has stated any non control will ruin the "new system" nvm if you have to control something that isnt yours to make something else work it should be the first red flag you see before wasting 3 years making a "collection/Mod pack" system then springing it on your user base without even saying what is happening till the last second.

New System has 0 testing. They are only now doing small tests meaning it MAY work. It MAY NOT Work. But they are only going to "present and provide it" after they have salted the earth.

 

Are you really asking such a stupid question? " Why do you want to upload files to just delete them?"

 

Version 1 issues with X files or procresses. Fix them and put Version 2 out. Do you still want to keep broken version 1? NO. you want to remove it so that only the new working one is out there. That is why you would upload a file then want to delete it. To fix the issues. Jesus christ you are a useful idoit. Did you also learn about babys from storks and cabbage patches?

 

You still have not answered the very basic question.

Why are you uploading the file to Nexus if you just plan to delete it?

 

I have a idea maybe a hunch the real reason but lets hear your opinion.

 

When you fix a program do developers delete old versions or do they just release new updates?

 

Are you on Windows 7 or Windows 10? Maybe you on Slackware Linux? Redhat?

 

 

 

 

 

Gnarlie,

 

 

Can you explain why you dislike the idea of "mod collections" ?

 

The ability to delete files?

Why are you uploading files if you just want to delete them?

 

I've never once expressed an opinion on mod collections. Why are you attributing to me something I've never said?

 

Your last question is simply a failure of imagination on your part.

 

Glad you think so,

So since I am so steeped in "ignorance" why do you not enlighten me and explain the very simple question for me.

 

Why do you want to upload files to just delete them?

 

but you, with your "corporate" background and your knowledge of how much server maintenance is, and how databases work and your github account should be familiar with the SDLC, and understand why programs are deleted over time and why having back level, unsupported potentially bug-filled older versions laying around is a bad thing. Surely?

 

:smile:

 

They are never EVER deleted version control keeps a record of commits so you can revert if need be.

If you are doing something new you create a new branch.

 

Have you ever used github or svn or any version control?

Edited July 13, 2021 by TexMex477

[gnarly1]

 

Glad you think so,

 

So since I am so steeped in "ignorance" why do you not enlighten me and explain the very simple question for me.

 

No, since you attributed to me something I never wrote and your posts seem quite disingenuous, I strongly suspect you're a troll.