Arthmoor Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 "Draconian" I.E. Banning people for asking too many questions about, locking threads with certain words in their title, locking threads that discuss certain things, giving vague answers etcStomping any threads that aren't 'doubleplusgood' I don't think I have seen anyone get banned for asking to many questions on this matter. And the only threads I have seen locked are more or less duplicates, or an answer has already been given. I don't know ... do you have any examples of what you mean exactly? They call it spreading disinformation when you ask too many valid questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarchinBunny Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Collections that work today are meant to still work two years from now and can't do that if files are deleted Well, to be fair, that is a ridiculous goal to have. If someone isn't going to update their collection in two years, I think at that point it's entirely on them. I can understand trying to reduce the work that would be involved in curating a massive collection with mods updated every single day, but over a two year period of time? Heck no, that's on the curator at that point. Plus, after two years, most people's games would be updated, meaning the packs wouldn't likely work anyway unless the user knew how to downgrade their game. Which defeats accessibility in that sense since most users likely don't know how to do that. I mean Steam requires you to do it through a command. I am willing to bet most users don't even know they can enter in commands in steam, let alone figure out what command to use or how to find the file they need lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarchinBunny Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 They call it spreading disinformation when you ask too many valid questions. Hmm, well sadly ... I have not seen that happen. Not saying it hasn't btw. Just I would have to see it for myself. Cause I know a lot of people who spread disinformation but act like it's just asking questions. Even questions can be presented in a manner to insinuate things that are not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScytheBearer Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 They call it spreading disinformation when you ask too many valid questions. Hmm, well sadly ... I have not seen that happen. Not saying it hasn't btw. Just I would have to see it for myself. Cause I know a lot of people who spread misinformation but act like it's just asking questions. Even questions can be presented in a manner to insinuate things that are not true. https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/10304418-ac3s-banned/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarchinBunny Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 They call it spreading disinformation when you ask too many valid questions. Hmm, well sadly ... I have not seen that happen. Not saying it hasn't btw. Just I would have to see it for myself. Cause I know a lot of people who spread misinformation but act like it's just asking questions. Even questions can be presented in a manner to insinuate things that are not true. https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/10304418-ac3s-banned/ Doesn't really tell me anything. All that link shows me is the staff felt that person was causing drama and throwing around misinformation. I can't confirm or deny it since I have no point of reference on what actually occurred. The reference post is off limits to me, cause I assume it's in the mod author section. But even if I did have access to it, it's not as if I can make a determination off of one post since the ban pretty much talks about multiple posts and issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showler Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Ac3s was banned for harassing other mod authors who used their assets in their mods (with permission). Demanding they take down the mods because Ac3s was removing the modders resource files that the assets were from. This was a clear violation of the TOS and they continued doing it even after being warned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScytheBearer Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 They call it spreading disinformation when you ask too many valid questions. Hmm, well sadly ... I have not seen that happen. Not saying it hasn't btw. Just I would have to see it for myself. Cause I know a lot of people who spread misinformation but act like it's just asking questions. Even questions can be presented in a manner to insinuate things that are not true. https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/10304418-ac3s-banned/ Doesn't really tell me anything. All that link shows me is the staff felt that person was causing drama and throwing around misinformation. I can't confirm or deny it since I have no point of reference on what actually occurred. The reference post is off limits to me, cause I assume it's in the mod author section. But even if I did have access to it, it's not as if I can make a determination off of one post since the ban pretty much talks about multiple posts and issues. You just convinced me and pretty much everyone else here that you will never see the truth, simply because you do not want to see the truth. You're blocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadToRegister Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 You just convinced me and pretty much everyone else here that you will never see the truth, simply because you do not want to see the truth. You're blocked. It gets better, about 50 pages ago he said he was only going to post ONCE and leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyLover264 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 They call it spreading disinformation when you ask too many valid questions. Hmm, well sadly ... I have not seen that happen. Not saying it hasn't btw. Just I would have to see it for myself. Cause I know a lot of people who spread misinformation but act like it's just asking questions. Even questions can be presented in a manner to insinuate things that are not true. https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/10304418-ac3s-banned/ Doesn't really tell me anything. All that link shows me is the staff felt that person was causing drama and throwing around misinformation. I can't confirm or deny it since I have no point of reference on what actually occurred. The reference post is off limits to me, cause I assume it's in the mod author section. But even if I did have access to it, it's not as if I can make a determination off of one post since the ban pretty much talks about multiple posts and issues. You just convinced me and pretty much everyone else here that you will never see the truth, simply because you do not want to see the truth. You're blocked. Funny thing is, if you look back at ac3s's posts, he was very clearly the victim, and yet they punished him rather than the people egging him on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruffydd Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 u keep talking about database capabilities. It's not a technical issue, it's a function issue.what does "its a function issue" mean in that context?do you even read the drivel you write? I'm not sure what they mean either, as the functions of a database are by definition technical. But regardless of how it's defined, I'm not aware of any modern (last few decades) database system, relational or otherwise, that can be broken by deleting data.Can you bork your queries? Can things that you think were pointing at one place now be pointing at another because what they would have been pointing at is not there? Can you eliminate the relationship between two entities by removing the data that linked them? Absolutely! But that's not breaking the database itself. The database rolls along just fine. You just need to change the logic of your data retrieval and analysis to accommodate the change in the data, if the data change is so significant that it interferes with the function of a query. All of this said, I suspect the solution is something they're already doing without telling anyone.Specifically, keeping enough information so that links are still there and some query function remains, thus preserving the database structure and some basic data, while removing the actual content, instead of actually deleting the record.Why do I suspect this is the case?Because I asked for my signs and posters mod to be deleted, and was told it was, but if I go to the old shortcut to that page from my desktop, the address remains the same (https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/9711/), and the name of the page according to the browser is now "Gruffydd's Signs and Posters - DELETED at Fallout 4 Nexus - Mods and community". On that page, it tells me that the mod I'm looking for can't be found.If they deleted all records, it would not find the page, and would likely end up on a redirect to a generic not found message. Instead, it seems to be keeping a number of records, and they just (hopefully - unless I've been flat-out lied to) deleted the content of the page, the part of the page that was the mod itself.This does delete the mod - if the content isn't there, the mod isn't there - but retains the links needed for statistics retrieval and keeps the logic of queries intact. Just to be clear, I'm fine with this approach, and think it's a good solution. It prevents technical issues, while satisfying the need for mod authors to have their mods removed. If I'm right, though, I do not understand why from a technical viewpoint it's limited to staff only, and only in rare instances, rather than allowing authors to do this to their own pages. So no, I don't see any reason why mod authors couldn't "delete" their files in that exact same way without causing problems in the database itself.As others have stated, I think this is a "we don't want to" rather than a "we can't" situation for the Nexus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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