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@insomnious thank you for getting back and hanging with this! 

On your post about the conflicts.  I do have several but they have all been resolved in the "Manage Rules" screen.  Is it your belief that having conflicts, even if they are resolved in "Manage Rules" screen, will cause this behavior?  For example if I combined or removed mods that currently conflict, essentially removing the conflict, do you believe this problem will go away?  I'm trying to understand how the conflicts cause the purging, because maybe we can tweak our setups temporarily to get some relief.

Also, while the purging is going on, it appears to allow us to continue to download and install mods and possibly even deploy.  Will it handle all that properly while purging or should we leave Vortex completely alone during this time?  I hit a record last night of almost 8 minutes of purging to enable a single mod.

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@insomnious or @Pickysaurus you are telling us to send logs files and state.  The log files are easy enough to find, but the state you only tell us how to generate the backup, not where it is, what folder and what the file will be named.  I've scoured Vortex's appdata folder and can only guess what the state files are.  You might get more people sending it if you tell us where it is.

Thanks!!!

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35 minutes ago, TennesseeTuxedo said:

@insomnious or @Pickysaurus you are telling us to send logs files and state.  The log files are easy enough to find, but the state you only tell us how to generate the backup, not where it is, what folder and what the file will be named.  I've scoured Vortex's appdata folder and can only guess what the state files are.  You might get more people sending it if you tell us where it is.

Thanks!!!

When you generate a backup the notification has a button to save a copy. You can put that anywhere on your HDD.

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4 hours ago, TennesseeTuxedo said:

Hi @Zanderat, when you say you don't have the problem, are you running just a few mods?  Do you see a purging go off anytime you do something?  Seeing people say that makes me wonder if there is some configuration or something that we can do to alleviate this problem. 

Medium load order, I'd say.  400+ mods.  It never purges unless I tell it to.

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6 hours ago, Pickysaurus said:

When you generate a backup the notification has a button to save a copy. You can put that anywhere on your HDD.

@Pickysaurus it does not answer the question.  I know how to generate the file from settings but where does the file go?  What is it named?  Does it go to the appdata folders?

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2 hours ago, Zanderat said:

Medium load order, I'd say.  400+ mods.  It never purges unless I tell it to.

400 is medium?  You have more mods than I do, I am running in the high 200's.  Mine purges for anything.  For example, I uninstalled a mod that was already disabled and had to go through the purge.

 

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I tried turning off the Collections extension since I don't use those.  It made no difference.  From the thread it appears someone discovered that turning off the Mod Dependency Manager extension will stop the madness.  I'm assuming that means the subsystem that handles the conflicts so if we removed any conflicts outside Vortex (e.g. combine mods), then we should be able to turn that off, is that correct?

This is desperate (as I wait 8 minutes for my mod disable test to complete and another 8 minutes of purging to re-enable it).  I was looking at MO2 as a possible escape hatch and that is not easy to find.  The github link is deleted.  I understand you have to get on discord to try to get it.  I don't know why it's so secret.  I wonder if the old Wrye Bash can handle it?

 

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5 hours ago, TennesseeTuxedo said:

@Pickysaurus it does not answer the question.  I know how to generate the file from settings but where does the file go?  What is it named?  Does it go to the appdata folders?

Apologies I had thought that the instructions were clearer for this. Settings -> Workarounds has the options to export your state as a file. 

A good way to see what you've put in your setup to cause this would be to reveal the "Mod type" column from the gear icon in the top right of the table, then filter for anything that isn't default/blank. One of these mods is part of the conflict. 

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5 hours ago, AugustaCalidia said:

@TennesseeTuxedo  MO2 is available on GitHub.  I downloaded it earlier today.

You'll find MO2 here: https://github.com/ModOrganizer2/modorganizer/releases

It's also available on Nexus Mods.

Most nonconstructive answer, ever.   Software has bugs, even MO2.  People in this thread are trying to troubleshoot a solution to a specific but not universal issue.  I am actually surprised at you @AugustaCalidia

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