Vortex keeps purging when I download and install a mod

[blesch]

3 hours ago, showler said:

5 people out of tens of thousands of users and the cause hasn't been found yet.

The only CM who's coming through here literally hasn't been reading the thread. He still thinks it's just *two* people having the problem, but it's actually 5 of us speaking up in this thread.

That's also not including the countless other people who just gave up and went to MO2 because Vortex CMs ignore them and blame the problem on them.

Same as what you just did.

[showler]

I'm not blaming you for the problem.  I'm saying that a problem can't be fixed until it's identified.

Right now we have effect, not cause.

[CommunistNinja]

Am I now the 6th person with this problem? Every time I install, remove, enable, disable, or re-install a mod, Vortex automatically follows with the purge operation. Purging and deploying 100 of gigabytes of data just to tweak an .ini file is super annoying, probably excessive wear and tear on an ssd too. 

[blesch]

1 hour ago, CommunistNinja said:

Am I now the 6th person with this problem? Every time I install, remove, enable, disable, or re-install a mod, Vortex automatically follows with the purge operation. Purging and deploying 100 of gigabytes of data just to tweak an .ini file is super annoying, probably excessive wear and tear on an ssd too. 

There was a CM in here who clarified this point: Vortex doesn't actually copy the files to the /Skyrim Special Edition folder. Rather, it applies links to those folder that - to Windows - look like they are indeed the correct file size. However, they're actually not. Incidentally, this can also cause Windows to report that you have less free space on your drive than you actually do. The trade-off for all of this is that it is *significantly* faster for Vortex to deploy these much-smaller-than-reported files rather than copy the whole file. (I saw it take 20 minutes for my computer to move 200 gigs worth of mods from one drive to another, and about 30 seconds for Vortex to copy the links from the staging folder to the game folder).

Finally, if you're as skeptical as I was, there is one other way to find proof of this and that is to look at your SSD's overall health.

In Windows, go to "Settings" ==> Storage ==> Advanced Storage Settings ==> Disks & Volumes.

Navigate to your hard drive's name, and you'll see a "Properties" button for the drive itself as well as each of the partitions for that drive. Click the "Properties" button for the drive, and then look at "Estimate Life Remaining"

This is the life for the built-in drive that I've had installed for nearly 2 years:

 

Description of this information from Microsoft's website (source link is below):

 

 

And this is for the drive I installed just shy of three weeks ago, that has had to purge and then re-write all of my mod files several *hundred*, if not over one thousand, times since I started having this bug.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/what-to-do-about-a-critical-warning-for-a-storage-device-258e0042-e091-277d-5fa6-3c710fba70d7

[CommunistNinja]

2 hours ago, blesch said:

There was a CM in here who clarified this point: Vortex doesn't actually copy the files to the /Skyrim Special Edition folder. Rather, it applies links to those folder that - to Windows - look like they are indeed the correct file size. However, they're actually not. Incidentally, this can also cause Windows to report that you have less free space on your drive than you actually do. The trade-off for all of this is that it is *significantly* faster for Vortex to deploy these much-smaller-than-reported files rather than copy the whole file. (I saw it take 20 minutes for my computer to move 200 gigs worth of mods from one drive to another, and about 30 seconds for Vortex to copy the links from the staging folder to the game folder).

Finally, if you're as skeptical as I was, there is one other way to find proof of this and that is to look at your SSD's overall health.

In Windows, go to "Settings" ==> Storage ==> Advanced Storage Settings ==> Disks & Volumes.

Navigate to your hard drive's name, and you'll see a "Properties" button for the drive itself as well as each of the partitions for that drive. Click the "Properties" button for the drive, and then look at "Estimate Life Remaining"

This is the life for the built-in drive that I've had installed for nearly 2 years:

 

Description of this information from Microsoft's website (source link is below):

 

 

And this is for the drive I installed just shy of three weeks ago, that has had to purge and then re-write all of my mod files several *hundred*, if not over one thousand, times since I started having this bug.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/what-to-do-about-a-critical-warning-for-a-storage-device-258e0042-e091-277d-5fa6-3c710fba70d7

Great! However, this doesn't answer the primary problem of Vortex purges. 

I've got v1.11.4 installed on two different PCs--one on the primary gaming PC and the other on the HTPC. The purging issue is only a problem on the primary gaming PC. It's not doing this loop on the HTPC. So far as I can tell, each instance of Vortex is the same. I don't see any settings as set differently. The main difference between the two is that Vortex manages more games and different profiles on the gaming PC. The HTPC only manages Skyrim and Fallout 4 on the htpc.

[blesch]

3 hours ago, CommunistNinja said:

Great! However, this doesn't answer the primary problem of Vortex purges. 

I've got v1.11.4 installed on two different PCs--one on the primary gaming PC and the other on the HTPC. The purging issue is only a problem on the primary gaming PC. It's not doing this loop on the HTPC. So far as I can tell, each instance of Vortex is the same. I don't see any settings as set differently. The main difference between the two is that Vortex manages more games and different profiles on the gaming PC. The HTPC only manages Skyrim and Fallout 4 on the htpc.

It's some kind of config or history or settings file not getting saved correctly.

Clarifying: I'm in the same boat as you. This is 5 of us (6 now?) having the same issue.

[Joey2815]

This same "purgeloop" glitch is happening to me aswell, ever since I updated vortex to 1.11.4 when modding skyrim. Anyone got any permanent solutions in the meantime of vortex getting this fixed?

[Zanderat]

Since it is not universal, the 5 or 6 of you should try to figure out what you all have in common that might be an issue.  Not saying it is or isn't a bug.  But it is certainly a limited problem.  Perhaps Discord is a better platform to do this on?  Just use The Nexus's Discord if you want.

 

[blesch]

1 hour ago, Zanderat said:

Since it is not universal, the 5 or 6 of you should try to figure out what you all have in common that might be an issue.  Not saying it is or isn't a bug.  But it is certainly a limited problem.  Perhaps Discord is a better platform to do this on?  Just use The Nexus's Discord if you want.

 

Someone else commented that the CMs basically ignore discord.

The same way they've been ignoring the problem in this thread, like when the CM Pickysaurus insists it's just 2 people having the problem when it's really just 6.

That's also not counting the other folks who have the problem and have either given up and reinstalled their Vortex (which I refuse to do), or moved on to MO2 (which I'm about to do).

[Zanderat]

If the CM's can't reproduce the problem, then it is on the users to help with that rather than expect hand holding.  I  never suggested involving CM's on Discord.  Just that the Nexus Discord is a convenient place for everybody.  And who knows?  Maybe a dev will jump in.  Crazier things have happened.