Overpowered Block and Curious Terms

[Arthmoor]

User calls author a dick after a perfectly reasonable reply. Author blocks user.

 

Nope. Not seeing how this process was abused or is somehow childish. They used it the way it's meant to be used. What surprises me is that the user is still here after obviously trolling a mod author in their file thread.

[HadToRegister]

Not only was I erroneously blocked today, but the feature in general, is childish and mostly unnecessary.

 

Now... In the MA's defense, I did call him a dick.

 

Sounds like you're being childish for getting blocked for acting childish and blaming the consequences of your actions on everybody else.

[Ethreon]

 

Not only was I erroneously blocked today, but the feature in general, is childish and mostly unnecessary.

 

Now... In the MA's defense, I did call him a dick.

 

Sounds like you're being childish for getting blocked for acting childish and blaming the consequences of your actions on everybody else.

 

 

BUT MOOOOM!!!...

[HeyYou]

 

Not only was I erroneously blocked today, but the feature in general, is childish and mostly unnecessary.

 

Now... In the MA's defense, I did call him a dick.

 

Sounds like you're being childish for getting blocked for acting childish and blaming the consequences of your actions on everybody else.

 

And this comes as a surprise when? :)

[aphilion]

Old, tiresome tactics. That’s all I keep reading. It’s why I don’t miss MySpace forums (yes I’m that old). “Let’s pick apart a posters sentences, in an attempt to invalidate the posters point, instead of reading and understanding what the individual is actually trying to say.” It’s a tactic to get the person to spend more time defending small aspects of their sentences, instead of defending their actual opinion. Redirection.

 

So instead of responding to each of these redirective comments; I’m going to stand by my OC. At least until a relevant rebuttal is made: the block tool is too easy and overpowered. People should engage each other in a social environment. Even those perceived as rude or, or ungrateful. Because intentions can be confused, especially in a digital environment. Blocking someone should be the last line of defense for someone: not the first line.

 

Also, as my headline stated (which I don’t understand why it’s an issue anyways), I find the specific terms, geared at profanity, to be somewhat curious and hypocritical. I’m not saying people should be calling people curse words or using hateful speech. But using profanity is not only an adult tool, it’s a useful one which can be entertaining and fun.

 

But, it’s not my site. I’m not the one making the rules. But per the forum group, is this not the place to ask about the rules or terms? Can we not discuss them here without painting me as a “jerk”? Because so far, all I see are people painting me some kind of villain. And that’s bs. I’m asking ligetimate questions and making legitimate points. I already preemptively admitted that my comment to the MA was crummy. I’m in no way validating my actions. What I am saying, is that that situation put a sour taste in my mouth about control mechanisms and elitism, and it’s seemingly a device that almost always puts the MA in the right, regardless of what the situation is. And though, mod users should be grateful and or respectful to authors, that’s doesnt mean people need to kiss butt, or walk on glass just to use mods. As someone who’s always rebelled against stringent rules, and Unnecessary control devices, I find tools like this overtly abusive. It takes a whole ten minutes search on google to find other conversations like this. And I cannot be the only user here, feeling that the block ability is one that is overpowered and misused... nor will I submit my integrity, just because I’m being gained up on.

 

So, I’ll wait patiently for an educated rebuttal or a reasoning for the easiness of the block tool, the rude and belittling message after being blocked, and a rational explanation and clean language in a site riddled full of dirty mods. (Not that I care. But that’s the hypocrisy).

[Dark0ne]

It’s why I don’t miss MySpace forums (yes I’m that old)

 

 

That doesn't make you very old. I'm 32 and I used MySpace briefly while I was at university. I don't consider myself that old.

 

 

Also, as my headline stated (which I don’t understand why it’s an issue anyways), I find the specific terms, geared at profanity, to be somewhat curious and hypocritical. I’m not saying people should be calling people curse words or using hateful speech. But using profanity is not only an adult tool, it’s a useful one which can be entertaining and fun.

 

 

So, I’ll wait patiently for an educated rebuttal or a reasoning for the easiness of the block tool, the rude and belittling message after being blocked, and a rational explanation and clean language in a site riddled full of dirty mods. (Not that I care. But that’s the hypocrisy).

 

 

I already explained our reasoning for the language, which you've ignored. In terms of the block tool, in this case, I'd say "working and being used exactly as intended" would be the correct answer.

 

 

People should engage each other in a social environment. Even those perceived as rude or, or ungrateful. Because intentions can be confused, especially in a digital environment.

 

 

Can we not discuss them here without painting me as a “jerk”? Because so far, all I see are people painting me some kind of villain. And that’s bs.

 

 

You called another mod author a dick, but, let's just recap so we're under no illusions here:

 

 

 

A mod author didn't want to port his mod to console, so you called him a dick. And that has sparked all...this...whatever this is.

 

Sure, you've admitted it was "crummy", but to come here and start such a debate when that is what sparked it is amusing, to say the least.

[DoctorKaizeld]

People keep trying to explain it and you ignore them. What do you honestly expect?

[aphilion]

The vultures circle. It's ok.

 

First things first.

[HadToRegister]

I was blocked by a mod author once.
But I used my time and energy to apologize to them and they unblocked me, because I was sincere with my apology.

Now, you've started this thread as if you were the victim of the blocking function, and it wasn't until the 2nd page where you came clean as to why you were blocked.
I'm not sure what audience you were hoping to appeal to, but I imagine you were hoping for a torch and pitchfork crowd, as you kept the reason you were blocked withheld at first in order to sway opinion to your side.
It's also been explained to you WHY the site allows Nudity but not profanity.
However, you persist only because nobody has given the answer You want to hear, but that all part of adulthood, sometimes the answers we get aren't the ones we want to hear, but they are correct answers nonetheless.
You're now attempting to save what little dignity you have left by attempting to hold the high ground in here when there IS none.
I think you've gotten enough attention for the day.

[aphilion]

 

It’s why I don’t miss MySpace forums (yes I’m that old)

 

 

That doesn't make you very old. I'm 32 and I used MySpace briefly while I was at university. I don't consider myself that old.

 

Proof that forums and their patrons will literally argue about anything. Lol. Im 39. I'm reminded by my kids how old that is everyday. HAha.

 

 

Also, as my headline stated (which I don’t understand why it’s an issue anyways), I find the specific terms, geared at profanity, to be somewhat curious and hypocritical. I’m not saying people should be calling people curse words or using hateful speech. But using profanity is not only an adult tool, it’s a useful one which can be entertaining and fun.

 

 

So, I’ll wait patiently for an educated rebuttal or a reasoning for the easiness of the block tool, the rude and belittling message after being blocked, and a rational explanation and clean language in a site riddled full of dirty mods. (Not that I care. But that’s the hypocrisy).

 

 

I already explained our reasoning for the language, which you've ignored. In terms of the block tool, in this case, I'd say "working and being used exactly as intended" would be the correct answer.

 

I didn't see a real response to that. Only, that you want it that way, Which is fair. You make the rules. But my point still stands. Its cherry picking content.

 

People should engage each other in a social environment. Even those perceived as rude or, or ungrateful. Because intentions can be confused, especially in a digital environment.

 

 

Can we not discuss them here without painting me as a “jerk”? Because so far, all I see are people painting me some kind of villain. And that’s bs.

 

 

You called another mod author a dick, but, let's just recap so we're under no illusions here:

 

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A mod author didn't want to port his mod to console, so you called him a dick. And that has sparked all...this...whatever this is.

 

Sure, you've admitted it was "crummy", but to come here and start such a debate when that is what sparked it is amusing, to say the least.

 

Thanks for posting that! See. I didn't stretch the truth at all. This almost verbatim what i posted. But if you can look at this and be like "the mod authors totes fine..." then it may say a little something about elitism going on here. And yes, I already admitted that that was the catalyst. But that doesnt invalidate my point. I'll explain....

 

 

 

 

So lets remove me from the whole thing (since nobody here can remove the villain from the logic) and speak hypothetically:

 

The only rule I found pertaining to the block tool is that a person must comment on your mod. THATS IT.

 

So, hypothetically:

I post a mod.

Someone comments, and I don't like their tone.

I block them.

Someone asks a question I don't like, or that's been asked already. How dare them!

I block them.

Someone comments, and I hate their avatar picture.

I block them.

Someone, brings up a constructive critique to the mod. It angers me.

I block them.

Someone comments and I don't like their name.

Blocked.

Someone brings up that my mod is either broken, or it broke their game. It embarrasses me.

I block them.

Someone was blocked by one of my friends, who was a "jerk" to them. I wait for them to comment on my mod, so I too can block them. They do.

I block them.

 

Are we seeing the trend yet? Unless... I'm missing some detail? This. function. is. broken.

 

Now-assumed this overpowered function, happens to you. The message you receive is one of belittlement, and a warning that "if you continue this you could get permanently banned".... what??? That kind of warning would deter most users from any type escalation. Even unwarranted blocks. Which, again, is not cool. If someone abuses the block function, any rational person might move on without moderation, for fear of being banned from this great website.

 

You're telling me... you don't see my point AT ALL. I don't believe that. Regardless if my circumstance was warranted or not.

 

Speaking of- I don't regret my response at all. Yes, he's not entitled to give me any respect, answers or any response. It's his mod. But if you are rude to people, especially after they praise you, people get bitter and respond poorly. Which, I did. From an objective view one can see the MA was being short and seemingly rude. how about "thanks for the compliment, but no I'm not ok with that, nor do I need to explain why..." Unless there's some elitism going on here, and somehow, I owe him my belittlement as gratitude for his mod that he shared?

 

No thanks. I may have reacted poorly, but I have some dignity.

 

PS-Robin, I'm kind of butthurt you ignored my compliments on your website. Debate aside, I was being sincere. This website is amazing, and I'm super proud to be a member. Your mod manager is insanely useful and a great free tool. It makes the whole process easier. But I guess you're sidetracked by defending your site? So let me be as clear as possible: I love nexus. I really do. But the block function, and the message that comes with it? Broken. And the profanity thing? I think its a silly rule. It's like omitting cuss words from a porno. Lol. (yes some of the mods here are that extreme)... You don't see the irony there?

Edited July 6, 2018 by aphilion