Starfield Mods not working

[Helgear1]

I have the latest version of Vortex and have the StarfieldCustom.ini in /docs/my games/starfield on C drive and I am reinstalling Starfield on my C drive. All my other Steam games are on D drive. I have tried several mods and nothing works at all. Never had an issue using NMM and stayed away from Vortex as it never really worked. No option for Starfield with NMM however. Starfield and Vortex will be on C drive after it re downloads. I tried hard deploy and no difference in vortex and vortex sees Starfield location.

follow this instructions and it work for me c:

https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/articles/116

 

[Zanderat]

It's the Starfield Extension that is the problem and if you go to the Extension page you can see that modders are having to work around some very weird changes Bethesda made with how things are loaded. Last I read it required changes to your INI file and actually moving folder from your "My Documents" folder to the game folder yourself in order to make things work.

 

Everyone who is posting here should be posting on the Extension page since that's where the problems are being discussed.

Wait. Starfield isn't even officially supported? And it needs another mod (link posted by @AugustaCalidia) to fix this issue? Why (and how) would any causal user even know about the extension page? Kinda proves my point. THIS IS THE VORTEX SUPPORT FORUM. Where, you know, one would go for support.

 

Clearly the devs no longer give a s#*! to properly support Vortex anymore (judging by actual dev interactions here or lack thereof and the recent lackluster updates).

 

Sad, really

[showler]

Starfield is officially supported. But support has been difficult. Bethesda really changed things up, possibly for CC support across both Steam and Game Pass versions. (as an aside, when CC is introduced I suspect it's going to destroy everything they are currently doing to make the game moddable and they'll have to start over). There's been a lot of discussion on the extension page about all of this.

 

While it's being worked on they probably should have added some kind of "go to the extension page for support" message. Duplicating all that information here would be worthless and redundant. Picky and a couple of the other staff have posted in threads about Starfield that the support is still being worked on, but you have the problem that users will keep making new threads and never search for the existing ones so there are a lot of threads about Starfield right now.

 

All that is a bit irrelevant though. The developers are developers. They aren't support people. They aren't community managers. It was never Tannin's job to answer support questions here but he did it anyway. Possibly because the staff was smaller then. The staff is larger now. They have support people. They have community managers. When questions don't get answered here it is the fault of those people, not the developers. Don't blame people for not doing a job that isn't theirs to do.

 

Go to the extension page. Like was suggested ten days ago. Find help there.

 

If you're mad, complain to the right people.

 

Also, go yell at Bethesda and Microsoft. They're the insane ones that decided that mods should be installed in the "my documents" folder.

[Zanderat]

@showler. Everything you said is right about Bethesda making unnecessary changes. I still feel that support should happen in the support forum. One of Vortex's greatest strengths is (was?) dev engagement and direct participation, which seems to be missing now. Also, why does Starfield's extension even have a mod page, if it is official? Here is where people who don't know to look for an extension separately would come. SSE extension doesn't have it's own page, for example. Honestly, I wouldn't have known except for the posts here.

[Guest deleted34304850]

Imagine being an apologist for basically ignoring the user base, and telling people who are looking for help and support with vortex in the vortex support forum that they're the ones who are wrong and to look elsewhere (which is linked nowhere in this or any other forum).

thats some stance you've taken there.

i'd give you a kudos for that reply if i was so motivated.

[showler]

It has an extension page because it had to be added to the already existing Vortex version when the game released, and probably because they anticipated it having issues in the beginning. I doubt they anticipated it having this many issues, though.

 

SSE predates the oldest extension mod page I can find by two years. I'm assuming some processes have changed in those years.

 

And I don't disagree with you about the support. I just think you shouldn't put it on the devs. Just because Tannin chose to do something that doesn't make it a job requirement for his replacements. Otherwise, what's the point of hiring those other people whose job it is to do the support?

[Zanderat]

I just came from that extension page. There is literally no posts from any of the devs and only two or three from Picky. All the solutions there are only work arounds offered by community members. It boggles my mind that Starfield support has been so shoddy, given it's high profile here (in the news section for example) and importance to the site.

[showler]

Yeah, Picky seems to be handling the responses (both in the comments and in the bug section), but the extension updated just this morning so the devs are paying attention.

 

I think people have just gotten so used to having all the Bethesda games figured out that they've forgotten how rough the early days are. Bethesda hasn't even added in their own mod support yet.

[Zanderat]

Apparent lack of support and limited to no communication has nothing to do with Starfield being new. Maybe what Tannin did was unique. But it shouldn't be.

[showler]

You don't buy a dog so you can bark yourself. There's a Community Team Leader, a Community Manager and a Junior Community Manager. I wouldn't expect them to spend their time dealing with github issues and writing code, I don't expect the devs to spend time dealing with the community.