Warnings and Site Ban Theater

[binchickendreaming]

16 minutes ago, alonzo1987 said:

This is precisely the question I ask myself and that I ask you here.

Do you honestly think that most audio mod creators, like the one who created STAR WARS MUSIC CONVERSION PACK for HELLDIVERS 2 for example, asked EA if it was "ok" to use their music?

Let me doubt it.

Just a heads up, you're not supposed to publicly discuss moderation.

[HeyYou]

2 hours ago, binchickendreaming said:

Just a heads up, you're not supposed to publicly discuss moderation.

Now there is a rule I don't quite get...... We aren't supposed to discuss moderation, but, there is a whole forum dedicated to doing just that.... Granted, we can't post there... Still....

[alonzo1987]

But you have to be realistic. EA will never allow music from its Star Wars games to be used in any other game.

Regarding the mode I'm talking about, it's a mod that has already been out for a while and has already been downloaded many times. There were upvotes, approvals... No, this is not a one-off attempt but an audio mod that has been fully approved by the moderation team.

Every day many audio mods are released. Who come from different famous rock bands, movies and who remain active.

Recently you have all the music from COD BLACK OPS 1 that can be used in HELLDIVERS 2. The music from DOOM too.

I would just like someone to explain to me how it all works. What is really the limit that should not be crossed?

Edited 18 hours ago by alonzo1987

[TheVampireDante]

1 hour ago, alonzo1987 said:

But you have to be realistic. EA will never allow music from its Star Wars games to be used in any other game.

Regarding the mode I'm talking about, it's a mod that has already been out for a while and has already been downloaded many times. There were upvotes, approvals... No, this is not a one-off attempt but an audio mod that has been fully approved by the moderation team.

Every day many audio mods are released. Who come from different famous rock bands, movies and who remain active.

Recently you have all the music from COD BLACK OPS 1 that can be used in HELLDIVERS 2. The music from DOOM too.

I would just like someone to explain to me how it all works. What is really the limit that should not be crossed?

Some companies allow the use of their content, normally as long as it's not charged for. Other companies refuse outright and may take action if they find out someone has used their work without permission (removal requests/DMCA orders, etc).

Some are 50/50 - they'll allow the use of "some" stuff, but not others, this is usually due to contract restrictions, or them having used third party material themselves (with permission). Good example of thatis games that use licensed music - they have permission, or have paid to use band's music.

That doesn't permit someone that owns a copy of that game, to take the music from it and use it in another game as a distributed mod just because they want to. You need permission from either the game devs, the music artist/band (or their producers) - on in some cases, both.

Take GTA and it's radio stations as the example - Rockstar paid to use all that music for their ingame radio stations. You taking that music, putting it in say, Fallout 4 or Cyberpunk 2077 and sharing it online without their written consent is when it becomes a copyright violation and content piracy.

If you ask a company if you can use their content and they don't respond, or do but say "no" - then that's it, you legally can't use it. You need a clear and confirmed "yes" on the matter.

Also helps if you can prove you have permission.

-and as others have said, just because other people have done it and they've not been removed yet doesn't mean we allow it. We can't check every upload as they happen, so we do indeed rely on people reporting mods they believe are breaking the site rules. So "but others are doing it" is not an accepted excuse or reason complain when a file is removed.

Site users are expected to have read and understand our site rules and policies, they are very clear on the matter of using copyright material.

https://help.nexusmods.com/article/28-file-submission-guidelines

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User submissions which include copyrighted content, be it game files or images, are prohibited unless proper permission has been granted by the property owner or appropriate representation. Such content may be removed from Nexus Mods websites and services and the infringing user account might be subject to administrative action as described in our Moderation Policy.

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The uploader is responsible for understanding the legalities involved when using copyrighted work and submissions that contain such content may be removed.

 

[Gantz79]

@alonzo1987Basically what Dante means is that if the company or developer comes here to claim their content and the author can't prove they have the owner's consent when requesting the review it will be removed.

Nexus depend on the users, owners or reports and they don't know that this mod exists, that's why there are so many models, music, costumes, weapons, etc.. imported from some games to others in EU, if the owner doesn't report it for piracy the mod will remain hung.