What to do with cycles ? Can anyone help ?

[IvanTurbinca]

I followed ESO and Ultimate Immersion guide to install what he shows in videos, but on the way i noticed that i cant follow his steps cause the video presents older version of mods.

 

So i tried to follow his steps but with the new updated mods, and ended up having red arrows next to mods cause of what dependencies he said to put.

Then i started to put in suggested dependency for each mod, and in the end i got them all green. Some have rules some have no rules. but all are green.

But now it says :

 

Mod rules contain cycles (and it shows the pic i uploaded when i check them)

 

Missing Masters

 

Plugin Dependencies not fufilled

 

I have absolutly no idee what to do after following a stept by step guide.

Can anyone help pls?

[Tannin42]

To clarify: A cycle means you told Vortex something like: load A after B, load B after C, load C after A - which in turn means A would have to be after and before C at the same time.

 

In the graph there are almost certainly multiple cycles that are connected, like "a->b->c->a and c->d->e->c"

 

To fix this:

Start at any mod, right-click the mod, select "Highlight Cycle". Now it should have highlighted only a single cycle involving that mod and it should be easier to see how they form a cycle.

You can right-click on any connecting line and select the option to flip its direction.

 

So if you have "a after b after c after a" you can flip literally any of those connections and it won't be a cycle any more:

a after b after c before a - works, not a cycle, valid order is c, b, a

a after b before c after a - works, not a cycle, valid order is b, a, c

a before b after c after a - works, not a cycle, valid order is a, c, b

 

Once you have solved one cycle it will disappear from the graph, making it gradually simpler.

[DoctorKaizeld]

Ooooh I didn't know about right clicking! Dang and that's rather obvious as well. I shall sit in my shame corner now.

[anjenthedog]

+1 to what Tannin said and add me to DoctorKaizeld's list of shame. (and thanks for the tip. It's not often I run into cycles, but I wasn't aware of the cycle isolation trick.)

 

PS> Hey Doc, why'd you put a pink mustachio over that pretty face? tsk tsk.

[DarkDominion]

Partially list of shame : I knew about flipping a rule, but not about right-clicking a mod to show the cycle ...

 

@Doc + @Anjen : likely Movember ?

 

@Tannin42 : Thanks for the lesson :)

[Zanderat]

I am joining you guys in the shame corner........ :tongue:

[HadToRegister]

This is a perfect example of why you shouldn't follow "Load Order Guides"

They break ALL of the sorting, group, and LOOT rules.